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« on: September 16, 2019, 06:41:20 pm »

I think this is getting out of hand and it starts in High School. Kids are able to switch high schools and sometimes do it a couple of times. Now the NCAA has the transfer portal for kids who won't stick around and compete for a job. Now the NFL players are demanding trades like the NBA players. We are pandering to a "me first" world. No wonder our society is filled with crazy ass people who can't handle life and the problems that come with it.  

Being an FSU fan I have been a fan of his for a while but I swear he seems to be more trouble than he is worth. Not sure he will ever be a team player and easily loves to be a distraction.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 07:06:06 pm »

This isn't soccer, you can't request a trade and basically have it become law. These need to be stamped out otherwise we are going to end up with 5 or 6 super teams that everyone wants to play for like the NBA while the rest of the league suffers.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 08:04:21 pm »

I don’t have a problem with players *asking* for a trade.  I have a problem with the way some player go about sabotaging their own team trying to force that. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 10:04:47 pm »

I'm solidly in the players camp here. They can ask for a trade. The team doesn't have to allow it, but then they just have to deal with the consequences. In the end the reason it works in soccer is because you realize that if you have an unhappy player, they'll be a distraction, they won't put in full effort and they'll just do enough to collect a paycheck and when they become free agents, they'll leave without hesitation.

In the end this is employment not forced labor. There's a word for that.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 09:23:05 am »

The inmates are in charge of the asylum. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 09:39:15 am »

I'm solidly in the players camp here. They can ask for a trade. The team doesn't have to allow it, but then they just have to deal with the consequences. In the end the reason it works in soccer is because you realize that if you have an unhappy player, they'll be a distraction, they won't put in full effort and they'll just do enough to collect a paycheck and when they become free agents, they'll leave without hesitation.

In the end this is employment not forced labor. There's a word for that.

I agree.  If you aren't happy, just like at any job, you can ask to be moved to another team.  They may deny it...whatever.

It's employment.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 09:59:21 am »

I'm okay with requests to a degree, but if the next 5 trade requests go through, it sets a bad precedent that everyone needs to be careful of. No one will want to play for the bad teams that drafted them in the Top 5 and request trades and potentially even holdout until they get them like in contract disputes. That can't happen.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2019, 11:05:43 am »

If you don't trade them they will become a distraction ... and may not even perform. The players don't have all the power but they have more than teams do in this regard. I would absolutely love for them to work in a no trade clause for the rookies and eliminate the franchise tag. Players would get to select your team once your contract runs out and they have fulfilled their original obligation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 11:19:15 am »

CF, no trade clause as in an NFL team can't trade a drafted player on their first contract at all ? or is this no trade as in the player can veto the trade?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 02:01:40 pm »

CF, no trade clause as in an NFL team can't trade a drafted player on their first contract at all ? or is this no trade as in the player can veto the trade?
I don't think the team or the player should be able to trade a player in their rookie contract. It would help to stabilize some things but not take it back to before free agency. I also feel for players who get stuck in the franchise tag. If they get hurt they are screwed royally.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2019, 04:03:23 pm »

The inmates are in charge of the asylum. 

If my employer said that I would look for a new job.  If I was an NFL player and the owner said that, I would demand a trade and holdout until I got one.

They are employees, not criminals or insanity patients assigned to involuntarily care.  Anyone of authority who holds your attitude will have a multitude of labor problems.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 04:04:18 pm »

No trade clause only makes sense if contracts are guaranteed.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2019, 05:53:32 pm »

If my employer said that I would look for a new job.  If I was an NFL player and the owner said that, I would demand a trade and holdout until I got one.

They are employees, not criminals or insanity patients assigned to involuntarily care.  Anyone of authority who holds your attitude will have a multitude of labor problems.
That's because apparently you're a snowflake who thrives on attacking anything not politically correct ... LOL. Most people are adult enough to recognize that as a very common saying and wouldn't even think of being offended by it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2019, 01:41:07 pm »

If my employer said that I would look for a new job.  If I was an NFL player and the owner said that, I would demand a trade and holdout until I got one.

They are employees, not criminals or insanity patients assigned to involuntarily care.  Anyone of authority who holds your attitude will have a multitude of labor problems.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2019, 08:00:14 am »

Lighten up. It is a metaphor.

LOL, yeah, I like Hoodie so I wasn't going to call him out.  But I thought everyone knew that saying. 
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