Burrow vs. Tua

[Fau Teixeira]

we should take our top 10 1st round pick and trade down into the teens .. pick up more picks and go from there to build up our team

[EDGECRUSHER]

Chase Young would be very nice consolation prize. We need a DE more than a QB at this point I would say.

If he were available when we pick, then I would agree but with each passing week that seems less and less likely. He is not falling past #3 and we would need to not win another game to pick that high. That's almost impossible with the Bengals still on the schedule.

We picked the wrong year to tank.

[Pappy13]

If he were available when we pick, then I would agree but with each passing week that seems less and less likely. He is not falling past #3 and we would need to not win another game to pick that high. That's almost impossible with the Bengals still on the schedule.

We picked the wrong year to tank.

Don't forget that Miami still has a lot of draft picks to move up in the draft. Not everyone needs a QB or a DE. Not out of the question for Miami to move up to #2 or #3 to get who they want. #1 will probably be out of the question assuming that goes to the Bungles. Redskins might be willing to work a trade for additional draft picks. Personally I'm excited that the tank for Tua rhetoric is over. Time to get real.

[EDGECRUSHER]

We can definitely trade up with our draft picks, but there are two problems with that:

1) We are assuming the top 2 teams don't need a franchise QB. If those teams are the Bengals and Redskins, that is incredibly unlikely. Haskins has to put on a show for the Redskins to justify passing on one of the top QBs.

2) Other teams want them too, so will the asking price be worth it? Are we going to trade 3 1st Rounders to move up 6 spots? That is a steep asking price but there is always some stupid NFL team who throws away future drafts for that one guy. The Rams traded 6 picks to move up and get Jared Goff. While he definitely had initial success, seems like he was exposed as a system QB by the Pats and this year he is garbage. Plus, last year may have been the Rams one last shot at a championship since they have no reinforcements coming due to the trade.

At most, I would trade our pick and one of the other first rounders to move up a few spots to bet one of the two QBs. Throw in a 3rd rounder too if that seals the deal, but anything more will be rough since we have holes everywhere.

[masterfins]

we should take our top 10 1st round pick and trade down into the teens .. pick up more picks and go from there to build up our team

The problem with that is that usually teams only trade up to those early picks for QB's, which most here are saying won't be available.  And since the Dolphins need top players at practically every position why would they trade down to get an extra mediocre player from the 5th round?  Doesn't make sense to me.

[masterfins]

I actually like Herbert from Oregon.  He's more mature having played in college for four seasons; and in spite of having three different HC's and three different offensive schemes in his first three years, he has managed to succeed.

[Spider-Dan]

If you're telling me that MIA needed to throw the season in the trash and get rid of nearly every promising young player just to draft Justin Herbert, I'm going to have a problem with that logic.

[EDGECRUSHER]

If you're telling me that MIA needed to throw the season in the trash and get rid of nearly every promising young player just to draft Justin Herbert, I'm going to have a problem with that logic.

I'm going to have some problems making a noose for my neck.

I don't trust any QB from Oregon or USC.

[Dolphster]

As bad as this team needs a QB, I wouldn't shed any tears if they got Chase Young.  QBs are always a roll of the dice as it is and Chase Young is probably more of a "sure thing" than any of the QBs.   

[EDGECRUSHER]

As bad as this team needs a QB, I wouldn't shed any tears if they got Chase Young.  QBs are always a roll of the dice as it is and Chase Young is probably more of a "sure thing" than any of the QBs.   

Not at all, Chase Young is a difference maker like Bosa. Instantly makes your defense much better. Of course, he is looking like a pipe dream as well. We may have to set our sights on that Top Left Tackle expected to go top 10 as well.

[masterfins]

If you're telling me that MIA needed to throw the season in the trash and get rid of nearly every promising young player just to draft Justin Herbert, I'm going to have a problem with that logic.

I'm not saying that.  What I mean is if he's around in the 2nd round I wouldn't have a problem with Miami drafting him there.  Some of the better QB's playing now were the 4th, or 5th QB drafted and weren't expected to be as good as they are, conversely as we know the top rated QB's drafted can easily end up being busts.

[Sunstroke]

I did a 4 round mock on Fanspeak last night that, through dealing a couple of next year's picks, I was able to come out of the first round with Chase Young and Joe Burrow.

I know, I know...not realistic, but it sure felt good watching Miami get both.

[CF DolFan]

I did a 4 round mock on Fanspeak last night that, through dealing a couple of next year's picks, I was able to come out of the first round with Chase Young and Joe Burrow.

I know, I know...not realistic, but it sure felt good watching Miami get both.

That would be a dream come true!! We need to sign you as our GM right away!

[EDGECRUSHER]

I'm not saying that.  What I mean is if he's around in the 2nd round I wouldn't have a problem with Miami drafting him there.  Some of the better QB's playing now were the 4th, or 5th QB drafted and weren't expected to be as good as they are, conversely as we know the top rated QB's drafted can easily end up being busts.

Unless some video of him smoking crack comes out on draft day, he won't drop to the 2nd round. Now, if he drops to the late teens where we will probably pick again then I think Miami may take that shot.

[CF DolFan]

I guess this thread answered itself over the weekend. I hope Tua recovers but he lost a ton of money even if he can play again.