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« on: November 10, 2019, 08:57:24 pm »

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Costly penalty that helped spark the Colts comeback.

Also, the front office again, for starting the rebuild one year early
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 08:21:21 am »

Coach Flores gets mine. Fitzpatrick clearly has a concussion and should not be playing. Rosen should have not only been playing but leading us the rest of the way. Bad decisions by Flores.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2019, 09:10:22 am »

Coach Flores gets mine. Fitzpatrick clearly has a concussion and should not be playing. Rosen should have not only been playing but leading us the rest of the way. Bad decisions by Flores.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm, wanting to not ruin the draft position, right?
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2019, 09:59:17 am »

I'm assuming this is sarcasm, wanting to not ruin the draft position, right?
Maybe just a little ... hahaha
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2019, 10:33:32 am »

Fitzpatrick was not that special in this game. The defense has been looking better and the team is not beating themselves as much as they did earlier in the year. If the defense can continue to hold teams under 20 points a game, Miami can win those games even with Rosen at QB.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2019, 12:50:35 pm »



Also, the front office again, for starting the rebuild one year early

I hate these threads.  I am pretty sure I've mentioned it.  I feel like anyone who has played at organized sports at a team level would agree with me.  Rarely, if ever, does a single event (or person) cause a loss.

This being said, I think this theme is interesting.  I don't think Miami is "tanking" this year; this will be an on-going process. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2019, 02:35:59 pm »

I hate these threads.  I am pretty sure I've mentioned it.  I feel like anyone who has played at organized sports at a team level would agree with me.  Rarely, if ever, does a single event (or person) cause a loss.

This being said, I think this theme is interesting.  I don't think Miami is "tanking" this year; this will be an on-going process. 

i don't think miami was ever trying to tank .. i think miami was and is prioritizing long term success over short term success .. so if someone offers you a kings ransom for a good player, you say yes thank you and take the 2 1st and a 2nd all the way to the bank
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2019, 04:10:07 pm »

Getting rid of the many of best players on your team at the same time is tanking.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2019, 04:48:21 pm »

Getting rid of the many of best players on your team at the same time is tanking.

Yeah, and tanking is prioritizing long term success over short term. It's potayto potahto.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2019, 05:06:59 pm »

Tanking isn't "prioritizing" long term success.  NE "prioritized" long term success when they traded Logan Mankins for draft picks.

Tanking is intentionally sacrificing short term success to move up in the draft via having a worse record.  If you are purposefully trying to improve your own position in the draft, you are tanking.  Period.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2019, 05:23:11 pm »

i don't think miami was ever trying to tank .. i think miami was and is prioritizing long term success over short term success .. so if someone offers you a kings ransom for a good player, you say yes thank you and take the 2 1st and a 2nd all the way to the bank
The front office is tanking. Flores and the players are not. Which is one of the reasons that Minkah had such a problem being here. How would you like it if your CEO was actively torpedoing your career?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2019, 05:34:12 pm »

The front office is tanking. Flores and the players are not.
If Flores was informed before accepting the job that that management's plan was to get a better draft position in 2020, he is a willing participant in the tanking process.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2019, 05:50:06 pm »

Concussion protocol.  It should be done on the very next play.  5 mins later is ridiculous.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2019, 12:19:55 pm »

If Flores was informed before accepting the job that that management's plan was to get a better draft position in 2020, he is a willing participant in the tanking process.
Agreed. I've said from the beginning that the I think the reason that Gase was let go was because he was not willing to do what Flores was willing to do. But he is trying to win with the players he has and the players haven't quit on the team as far as I can tell. They are playing hard for Flores.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2019, 01:05:57 pm »

Tanking isn't "prioritizing" long term success.  NE "prioritized" long term success when they traded Logan Mankins for draft picks.

Tanking is intentionally sacrificing short term success to move up in the draft via having a worse record.  If you are purposefully trying to improve your own position in the draft, you are tanking.  Period.

Miami will probably win four to five games this season.  Let's magically back up and erase all of the trades, bring back Stills, Tunsil, etc.  How many wins are those players worth, together, all told?  One?  Two?

At best, in the prettiest Normal Rockwell painting with the sun shining bright, this was a six to seven win team.

Miami got rid of players, obtained draft picks and gained flexibility in the cap all while sacrificing maybe a win, or two; I'm not sure if they would even accomplish that. They gave up 163 points in the first four games, those would have been a wash no matter what.  Kenny Stills ain't helping.  I like Mink, he isn't stopping those flood gates.  Those ass kickings are happening whether the trades do or not.

Maybe Miami gets their first win against the 'Skins.  They got smoked in Buffalo.  They got smoked again in Pittsburgh.  

Coming up - would they have beaten anyone else on the schedule besides the two they probably will beat (Jets and Bengals) and the one they may beat (Browns) to get to five wins?

This team did not / isn't tanking.  Tanking is losing on purpose.  They could not have done any better this season either way.

And, for the record, the Minkah trade was horrific.  
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