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Fau Teixeira
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2019, 03:15:33 pm »

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I'm certainly not talking about the government giving healthcare away to everyone. Everyone should have access and everyone should pay the same. If people can't afford their premiums they could implement some type of tax credits or subisidys based on income like they have now.

Government doesn't give healthcare away, you pay for healthcare with taxes. It's not free healthcare, it's universal healthcare, and it's paid for.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2019, 03:31:24 pm »

LOL ... When high schoolers are in session ... it's wide open for college kids and senior citizens ... both of whom work at places like McDonalds and Wal-Mart.
Do senior citizens deserve to make a livable wage?

I don't know about FL, but here in CA, when I go to a fast food restaurant or a retail store, I see a LOT of workers that are not in high school (I daresay the majority of them).  There may have been some point in the glorious past, maybe back when a 1-income family could have a stay-at-home mom and put two kids through college with no debt then retire with a pension, when fast food and retail were jobs for kids in school... but those days are long gone.  Saying that minimum wage jobs are for kids is as out-of-touch as saying that kids can get a paper route.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2019, 04:21:54 pm »

Do senior citizens deserve to make a livable wage?
If a senior citizen is working at McDonalds or Walmart it's most likely a fill in job. There is no reason to retire if you can't afford it.

I don't know about FL, but here in CA, when I Saying that minimum wage jobs are for kids is as out-of-touch as saying that kids can get a paper route.
LMAO ... adults have taken over the paper routes as well! Dammit man.
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2019, 08:39:04 pm »

Correct. But for it to work you would have to charge everyone the same. Just like at Walmart, everyone pays the same for that can of beans. If people ain't buying your beans then you need to adjust your prices or people are going to buy a different brand.

Exactly.   Each health insurance company should have fixed premiums/deductibles/copays for certain levels of care and people should be able to decide which level of care is best for them and pay the necessary premium.   

Kinda like buying an 8 oz can of beans as opposed to a 16 oz can of beans and they're a little more expensive at Publix than they are at WalMart.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2019, 11:12:31 pm »

Exactly.   Each health insurance company should have fixed premiums/deductibles/copays for certain levels of care and people should be able to decide which level of care is best for them and pay the necessary premium.   

Kinda like buying an 8 oz can of beans as opposed to a 16 oz can of beans and they're a little more expensive at Publix than they are at WalMart.

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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2019, 07:33:10 am »

Exactly.   Each health insurance company should have fixed premiums/deductibles/copays for certain levels of care and people should be able to decide which level of care is best for them and pay the necessary premium.   

Kinda like buying an 8 oz can of beans as opposed to a 16 oz can of beans and they're a little more expensive at Publix than they are at WalMart.

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If that were true, no one would get beans.   Evil
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2019, 08:43:06 am »

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How is that Communist?
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 02:46:49 pm »

How is that Communist?

He clearly doesn't understand what Communism is.  In Communism, the government would own the factory that produces the beans and ration every family to get one 8 oz can of beans per week regardless of how much money they were willing to pay.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2019, 03:35:34 pm »

You're right.  The system you are describing is socialism, not communism.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2019, 08:48:15 am »

LMAO ... adults have taken over the paper routes as well! Dammit man.

You can trace this back to Reagan, he did more damage to the middle class and to american families than any other single modern era president.
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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2019, 01:59:25 pm »

You can trace this back to Reagan, he did more damage to the middle class and to american families than any other single modern era president.
LOL ... you don't think logistics and urban sprawl might have had a little to do with it?

Got to love when even mainstream media supports the conservative viewpoint

https://youtu.be/A02ciYFzTHw
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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2019, 02:25:46 pm »

Exactly.   Each health insurance company should have fixed premiums/deductibles/copays for certain levels of care and people should be able to decide which level of care is best for them and pay the necessary premium.   

Kinda like buying an 8 oz can of beans as opposed to a 16 oz can of beans and they're a little more expensive at Publix than they are at WalMart.

Problem is insurance is not a can a beans.  Walmart doesn't care who buys its beans.

With insurance the purchaser makes a huge difference.  A  74 year old with a history of heart disease is a different customer than a healthy 20 year old.  The ONLY way to have uniform premium for both is with government intervention. 
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« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2019, 05:14:12 pm »

LOL ... you don't think logistics and urban sprawl might have had a little to do with it?

Got to love when even mainstream media supports the conservative viewpoint

https://youtu.be/A02ciYFzTHw


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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2019, 05:23:43 pm »

and i watched your video .. stossel's wrong.
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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2019, 05:34:28 pm »

and i watched your video .. stossel's wrong.
LOL ... OK ... I think he makes a good case complete with statistics and interviews. Let's see you prove he's wrong.

BTW ... what's the deal with posting a bunch of links that have nothing to do with the topic?
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