Dolphins Pick 5th, 18th and 26th

[CF DolFan]

Hard to watch Burrow and not want us to throw everything at Cincy to get him. I keep telling myself Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Matt Leinart, and Danny Wuerffel looked pretty good too. Oh well ...  the guessing game continues.

[Tenshot13]

I really want Burrows too, but not at the risk of draft capital when Tua is just as good (although with injury concerns).  I did a mock draft simulator yesterday, and no QB was taken until Dolphins at 5, so who know what could happen on draft day.  Burrows a Dolphin?  Maybe, but doubtfully.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Hard to watch Burrow and not want us to throw everything at Cincy to get him. I keep telling myself Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Matt Leinart, and Danny Wuerffel looked pretty good too. Oh well ...  the guessing game continues.

I know but we have so many holes that the astronomical cost isn't worth it. Cincy wants him so you have to pay for the #1 pick AND for Cincy to forgo their franchise QB. In all honesty, we're talking all of our 2020 1st Rounders and probably next year's too plus some other stuff.

It's also hard to watch him and realize that we won 5 games by a combined 24 points and we wouldn't really be a worse team if we went 24 points in the other direction.

[masterfins]

I know but we have so many holes that the astronomical cost isn't worth it. Cincy wants him so you have to pay for the #1 pick AND for Cincy to forgo their franchise QB. In all honesty, we're talking all of our 2020 1st Rounders and probably next year's too plus some other stuff.

It's also hard to watch him and realize that we won 5 games by a combined 24 points and we wouldn't really be a worse team if we went 24 points in the other direction.

Who says Cincy will take Burrows?  They can say one thing and do another.  In the end it all depends on what their GM wants; he can be just as much in love with Tua and take him knowing they don't need to play Tua in 2020.  Or, Cincy knows they suck and could put off picking a QB until next year.  Cincy is in Ohio, look at the crazy QB decisions Cleveland has made in the last 5 years.

[hordman]

 

Hard to watch Burrow and not want us to throw everything at Cincy to get him. I keep telling myself Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Matt Leinart, and Danny Wuerffel looked pretty good too. Oh well ...  the guessing game continues.

True. His presence on the field and command of that offense is impressive.  HOWEVER, NFL defenses and schemes are definitely notches above CFB.

My boy says he is very hesitant for guys who have one breakout season and then go to the NFL right from ther.  I personally hope he does well cause I hate to see the "bust" title attached to someone, especially going if a team that doesn't provide him with the support (ie, good coaching, good OL, etc)

He can throw the ball for sure.

[MaineDolFan]

The only straight up bust was Prince, everyone else was okay or better.  Have to give credit for finding Preston Williams, Laird and Neeham as undrafted free agents too.

Un-drafted isn't drafted. 

Miami HAS to hit on close to everyone in the first four rounds next season to turn this around.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Un-drafted isn't drafted. 

Miami HAS to hit on close to everyone in the first four rounds next season to turn this around.

Absolutely, we need starters across both lines. Can't get a Pro Bowler out of every spot but every first round pick has to have an impact in 2020 or the future in the case of Tua who will probably sit most of 2020 for us if we draft him.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Un-drafted isn't drafted. 

Disagree. Irrelevant. If you miss on a few draft picks but find a superstar UDFA it makes up for it.  Cameron Wake was a good pick up for you.  Doesn't matter that you didn't draft him. 

[CF DolFan]

Disagree. Irrelevant. If you miss on a few draft picks but find a superstar UDFA it makes up for it.  Cameron Wake was a good pick up for you.  Doesn't matter that you didn't draft him. 

That has more to do with luck than anything else. They chose to come to you and try out. I completely agree with Maine. We failed at identifying talent and selecting them and that's where we have all our bullets for our future.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

That has more to do with luck than anything else. They chose to come to you and try out. I completely agree with Maine. We failed at identifying talent and selecting them and that's where we have all our bullets for our future.

Both high round drafts and late rounds/UDFA involve luck and skill.  And the ability to be better than other teams is critical to a successful NFL team.

First and second round drafting is not about finding great players as much as it is about avoiding bad players. 

The Colts assessment of Peyton Manning wasn’t the important factor.  What was significant was that they knew to avoid Leaf.

OTOH, the Cowboys getting Romo was about seeing potential nobody else saw and capitalizing on it. 

Granted you should have a better success rate with first round draft picks than UDFA.  But being better than other teams at finding the hidden gems is just as important as solid drafting.  Also finding an all-pro UDFA  makes up for a first round bust.

[Tenshot13]

That has more to do with luck than anything else. They chose to come to you and try out. I completely agree with Maine. We failed at identifying talent and selecting them and that's where we have all our bullets for our future.

Both high round drafts and late rounds/UDFA involve luck and skill.  And the ability to be better than other teams is critical to a successful NFL team.

First and second round drafting is not about finding great players as much as it is about avoiding bad players. 

The Colts assessment of Peyton Manning wasn’t the important factor.  What was significant was that they knew to avoid Leaf.

OTOH, the Cowboys getting Romo was about seeing potential nobody else saw and capitalizing on it. 

Granted you should have a better success rate with first round draft picks than UDFA.  But being better than other teams at finding the hidden gems is just as important as solid drafting.  Also finding an all-pro UDFA  makes up for a first round bust.

For once I agree with the Patriots fan

[Dolphster]

Both high round drafts and late rounds/UDFA involve luck and skill.  And the ability to be better than other teams is critical to a successful NFL team.

First and second round drafting is not about finding great players as much as it is about avoiding bad players. 

The Colts assessment of Peyton Manning wasn’t the important factor.  What was significant was that they knew to avoid Leaf.

OTOH, the Cowboys getting Romo was about seeing potential nobody else saw and capitalizing on it. 

Granted you should have a better success rate with first round draft picks than UDFA.  But being better than other teams at finding the hidden gems is just as important as solid drafting.  Also finding an all-pro UDFA  makes up for a first round bust.

I would say you pretty much hit the nail on the head.   I saw an interview once where it was said that the Colts were actually enamored with Leaf, but he didn't want to play there and blew them off at the combine interview and pissed them off.  Who knows if the story is true or not.   But I agree with everything else you said. 

[CF DolFan]

I did my first mock draft on draftnetwork.com and this was the first round. They had Chase Young going first which left both Burrow and Tua for us at 5. I took Joe Burrow at 5, A.J. Epenesa from Iowa at 18, and OT Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 26.

Man I'd be pretty happy if that played out.
 

[EDGECRUSHER]

I did my first mock draft on draftnetwork.com and this was the first round. They had Chase Young going first which left both Burrow and Tua for us at 5. I took Joe Burrow at 5, A.J. Epenesa from Iowa at 18, and OT Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 26.

Man I'd be pretty happy if that played out.
 

I know the Bengals are a poorly run franchise but they're not THAT poorly run where they pass on Burrow. Even if by some miracle they did, some team would trade up with the Skins to take him.