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« on: January 13, 2020, 10:57:23 am »

I'm sorry but this guy does not belong in the HOF.  It is not the "Hall of good." 

As a Dallas Cowboys coach, coaching without a salary cap (oh; y'all forgot he came before that, huh)?

Total record of 44-36, winning percentage of .550, two Super Bowls.

As a coach of the Miami Dolphins:

*Ruined the last years of one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game
*Never won the AFC East.  During his time every team in the AFC East won the title except the Miami Dolphins.
*Quit in 1999, stating he was "burned out, " reversing his decision a day later.
Finished with a 36-28 record in Miami
ZERO playoff wins

He wasn't a BAD coach.  He is NOT a Hall of Fame Coach.

I saw this dog and pony show on TV last night and this guy crying on TV and could only think "he's crying because he knows he fooled them all." 

Complete joke.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 11:44:11 am »

He is over rated. He got in on the Cowboys brand more than anything else.  Plenty of better coaches to choose from.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 11:46:47 am »

Is there a coach not in the HoF that have won more than two Superbowls, especially two in a row?  Current coaches withstanding.

EDIT:  Looked it up, Tom Flores, George Seifert and Mike Shanahan are the only three, with Mike Shanahan winning two in a row.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 12:50:47 pm »

^^^^Caughlin.  But I am not sure if he is eligible this year or next.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 01:14:54 pm »

^^^^Caughlin.  But I am not sure if he is eligible this year or next.
I didn't realize how long he's been out of coaching, but yeah him too.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 01:17:47 pm »

My personal criteria would run deeper than titles.  There are plenty of players running around out there with numerous titles (thanks, NE) who are not HOF worthy...but have multiple rings.

When you have an overall winning percentage barely over .500 and, one of those cities, took over a team from the highest win total coach of all time and a rock star offense with a fairly down division and did squat...that factors in.  

I did misspeak, he had two playoff wins in Miami to go along with his 38-31 record and 62-7 bouncing from Jacksonville to end his, and Marino's, career.  

Again, JJ was a good coach in this league.  There are and were a lot of good coaches.  He isn't HOF (and I may or may not have a deep burning hatred for the guy).  
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2020, 01:22:02 pm »

Jimmy Johnson and Wanny have been my two nominees for this site's Ring of Dishonor for years.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 01:30:39 pm »

I didn't realize how long he's been out of coaching, but yeah him too.

I would say Caughlin is immensely more qualified to be in the HoF than JJ.  He was the coach of the second greatest upset in SB history. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 02:02:17 pm »

I would say Caughlin is immensely more qualified to be in the HoF than JJ.  He was the coach of the second greatest upset in SB history. 

What was first?
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2020, 02:13:07 pm »

I think Jimmy's fingerprint is definitely a part of the NFL. Besides building that dynasty of a team he developed the draft trade chart that is very much still in use. As well ... to this day many coaches in the NFL spend time in the Keys with Jimmy just to pick his brain. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2020, 02:14:16 pm »

What was first?

Jets over Colts.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2020, 02:19:20 pm »

My personal criteria would run deeper than titles.  There are plenty of players running around out there with numerous titles (thanks, NE)

I would say titles and win % are a better measure for coaches than players.  You can be a HoF player on a shitty team or a below average player on a championship team.  Coaches have overall team responsibilities.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2020, 04:42:17 pm »

He is over rated. He got in on the Cowboys brand more than anything else.  Plenty of better coaches to choose from.
Bill Belichick doesn't think so. It was on his recomendation that Jimmy's in the Hall.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2020, 04:52:22 pm »

If Cowher is a HOF coach, JJ definitely is.  And I think that many people credit Switzer's title to JJ.

If we're going to object to coaches in the HOF, JJ seems far down the list.  Why is Madden in?
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2020, 04:53:44 pm »

Bill Belichick doesn't think so. It was on his recomendation that Jimmy's in the Hall.
He's one of those coaches I mentioned earlier that visits Jimmy in the Keys. "Belichick and Johnson go on fishing trips down in Florida where the two discuss football tactics and team management, according to Patriots.com’s Don Banks."
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