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« Reply #90 on: February 13, 2020, 09:21:17 am »

Tua will be there at 5, and any panic-inspired trade to move up will be nothing more than a waste of draft capital that could be better used to add more quality players to the roster.



Agreed. We need all of our 1st rounders, we can't trade them "just in case". Washington is the only team that may draft him despite using a 1st rounder on a QB last year and not giving him enough of a chance to show himself. With the level of talent available in the Top 5, I don't think they take him especially passing on Chase Owens.

Tua should be there at #5 and if not then we will take the next best player available.
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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2020, 09:39:58 am »

Hard to take anything at face value this time of the year but it seems Detroit is going to take Tua unless we give them the world. They have supposedly placed Matt Stafford on the trade block and given his agent permission to make a deal.
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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2020, 09:50:45 am »

Tua will be there at 5, and any panic-inspired trade to move up will be nothing more than a waste of draft capital that could be better used to add more quality players to the roster.


This, and if he isn't draft Simmons.
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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2020, 09:59:31 am »

Hard to take anything at face value this time of the year but it seems Detroit is going to take Tua unless we give them the world. They have supposedly placed Matt Stafford on the trade block and given his agent permission to make a deal.
Leading story on NFL.COM is the Lions' GM saying that Stafford up for trade is 100% False. So Dolphins should still be safe to draft Tua, if they really think that they have too.
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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2020, 10:18:17 am »

stay pat .. having more 1st round picks is better than less first round picks and any qb in this draft
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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2020, 10:23:48 am »

Leading story on NFL.COM is the Lions' GM saying that Stafford up for trade is 100% False. So Dolphins should still be safe to draft Tua, if they really think that they have too.

It would create $32 Million in dead money for them if they trade Stafford, so that ain't happening.
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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2020, 11:12:32 am »

Lions could draft Tua even if Stafford wasn't on the trading block this year....but it would mean they are planning to trade him before the 2021 season.nu
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2020, 11:50:49 am »

Lions could draft Tua even if Stafford wasn't on the trading block this year....but it would mean they are planning to trade him before the 2021 season.nu

I would have to see his contract but I think the way it is structured, it would kill the Lions to move on from him anytime soon. Not just that, but he is a good QB who was on pace for an awesome year before injury. Their #3 pick would be better served improving their horrible team rather than "upgrading" a spot that isn't a problem.

Unfortunately, they need lots of help so they will listen to every trade offer.
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« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2020, 12:27:01 pm »

I would have to see his contract but I think the way it is structured, it would kill the Lions to move on from him anytime soon. Not just that, but he is a good QB who was on pace for an awesome year before injury. Their #3 pick would be better served improving their horrible team rather than "upgrading" a spot that isn't a problem.

Unfortunately, they need lots of help so they will listen to every trade offer.

Moving on this year $32 million, next year $19 million.  So drafting Tua for 2021 would not be insane.
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« Reply #99 on: February 13, 2020, 12:53:12 pm »

Moving on this year $32 million, next year $19 million.  So drafting Tua for 2021 would not be insane.

$19 Million is a lot for next year too. Like I said, Stafford is a good QB who was having a monster year before injury. Tons of needs on that team, QB just isn't one of them. It would be in their best interest to bluff and pretend they will draft him so some team offers them the moon, I just hope it isn't Miami.
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« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2020, 12:56:44 pm »

This, and if he isn't draft Simmons.

This... The more I watch film of Simmons, the more I fall in love with the kid. I really do believe that he's going to be a top-5 caliber LB for many, many years.



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« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2020, 01:04:45 pm »

Here I thought just drafting Tua was a nightmare,  now there is trade talk. Ugh.
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« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2020, 02:11:52 pm »

Here I thought just drafting Tua was a nightmare,  now there is trade talk. Ugh.

There's always trade talk, even when no one is talking trade.  'Tis the season...  Roll Eyes

My candle-lighting fodder (for now):

#5:    QB Tua Tagovailoa
#18:  WR Justin Jefferson
#25   OC Tyler Biadasz

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« Reply #103 on: February 13, 2020, 02:37:18 pm »

There's always trade talk, even when no one is talking trade.  'Tis the season...  Roll Eyes

My candle-lighting fodder (for now):

#5:    QB Tua Tagovailoa
#18:  WR Justin Jefferson
#25   OC Tyler Biadasz


I figured WR was were we're most stacked, there are some good EDGE and Olinemen in that range.
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« Reply #104 on: February 13, 2020, 03:41:51 pm »

I figured WR was were we're most stacked, there are some good EDGE and Olinemen in that range.

I wouldn't say stacked, I would say position of least amount of need. If somehow a guy like CeeDee Lamb fell to us at 18 just because that's how the chips fell, I would take him. Lining him up across from Parker and Preston Williams? Awesome.

Because of how much we suck, we are in a position to basically justify taking anyone with any of our picks. Every position is a position of need so we can't go wrong as long as we don't take the 49th ranked prospect in the draft at #18 just because he was an O-Line guy.
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