Anyone still holding out hope for Tua at #5...

[Spider-Dan]

It cost 3 firsts and a second to trade up to #2 for RG3.
Lawrence will cost more than that.

[Tenshot13]

It cost 3 firsts and a second to trade up to #2 for RG3.
Lawrence will cost more than that.

Yeah, might even cost a 2022 1st rounder as well.

[Tenshot13]

This article was reassuring for people "Still holding out hope for Tua at #5":

https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2020/04/13/miami-dolphins-dont-need-to-trade-up-to-secure-tua-tagovailoa/


AJ Spurr

The closer we get to draft night, the more questions surrounding trading picks come up. With Miami being the team that has had it’s eyes on former Alabama star quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, do they need to trade up from the No. 5 overall pick in order to secure him?

The short answer to this is no.

There are plenty of theories that are centered around surprising picks and interesting trades in order for teams to obtain the 2018 Heisman finalist, but the one that is most likely to occur is Miami drafting Tagovailoa at No. 5.

Going in order, lets first analyze why Washington won’t take Tagovailoa at No. 2.

It has been rumored that Ron Rivera will want to bring in his own players to create his own original system in his first year of coaching in Washington. While they did interview quarterbacks at the NFL combine, it is likely that he will want to see what Haskins can do as a full-time starter.
Tua Tagovailoa

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Kalyn Kahler of Sports Illustrated reported that a source close to Washington’s owner, Dan Snyder, claimed the Tua rumors were “just a lot of smoke.”

Plus, Washington has other needs to address. They will likely take the role everyone expects them to and select Ohio State’s Chase Young.

Moving on to the No. 3 overall pick, the Detroit Lions.

Is Matthew Stafford the guy to take Detroit to a Super Bowl? Maybe. Is he the guy Detroit’s front office thinks can get it done? Yes.

Kyle Meinke of MLive.com argues that while Stafford has recently been bitten by the injury bug, Tagovailoa has been as well. Meinke also claims that Stafford’s recent play is a sign that brighter days are soon to come for the Lions.

He writes, “Would the Lions really use their best resource to try to replace their best player from a year ago with a quarterback who is entering the league with his own injury concerns — and may not play until 2021 anyway, when Detroit is facing a win-now mandate in 2020?”

So it’s not looking like the Lions will draft Tagovailoa, but will someone else take him with the No. 3 overall pick?

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This is where the Los Angeles Chargers come into play.

They are in an interesting position as they pick at No. 6, only one behind Miami. Right now it looks as if they will be selecting Oregon’s Justin Herbert to be their future signal caller.

There are only two possible scenarios in which Chargers fans wake up on Apr. 24 knowing Tua Tagovailoa will soon wear a Los Angeles uniform: the Dolphins pass on him or they trade up with Detroit.

It’s not certain Miami will draft Tagovailoa, but if he’s there, it’ll be hard to pass on him – especially since they are still receiving flack for not drafting Drew Brees back in 2001.

There’s no telling what Detroit would ask for in return for the pick, but Gavino Borquez of ChargersWire compares this hypothetical trade to that of the New York Jets’ trade from No. 6 to No. 3 with the Colts in 2018.

In that trade, the Jets gave up four picks, their No. 6 overall, two second-round picks and the following year’s second-round pick.

“Los Angeles doesn’t have two second-round selections this year like the Jets did a couple of years back,” writes Borquez, “which means that it would cost No. 6, No. 37 and most likely an early pick in 2021.”

That may be too much for the Chargers to give up, especially since they are also trying to rebuild, much like the Dolphins. Unless they get a good deal from Detroit, it may not be worth it.

So whether one looks at Washington not needing a quarterback, the Lions looking to stick with Stafford or the Chargers lack of draft capital for a trade, it’s clear the Miami Dolphins are probably going to be able to win the ‘Tank for Tua’ sweepstakes at No. 5.

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[Dolphster]

Honestly, if the right people fall in the draft, with all the holes in the Dolphins' roster, I wouldn't be heartbroken if they don't take a Tua OR Herbert and get Jacob Eason in the 2nd (or 3rd) round.   Not that I don't like Tua or Herbert, but QBs are such a roll of the dice, that if they could get a top OT, DL, and another top OT or Guard in the first round, I would be okay with that.  Of course you need a really good QB, but I'm a firm believer in building a team starting from the trenches on both sides of the ball. 

[Brian Fein]

I've been pretty vocal in my local circles about adamantly NOT drafting Tua, and CERTAINLY not trading up for him.

I'm sure its unpopular among Dolphins fans, but the team has so many holes and needs, and is uniquely positioned with 3 first round picks to fill them with talented players, that wasting all of them on 1 QB (who IMO is more Kyler Murray than Payton Manning) would be foolish.

Spend those picks on o-line, please.  Maybe a Linebacker or a safety, but o-line has been an unaddressed weakness for 10 years.  PLEASE fix the o-line and worry about your QB next season.

[Sunstroke]

Spend those picks on o-line, please.  Maybe a Linebacker or a safety, but o-line has been an unaddressed weakness for 10 years.  PLEASE fix the o-line and worry about your QB next season.

Miami is going to do both this year... They'll get their QB - whichever QB - with their #5 pick, and then they have 5 more picks during the first 3 rounds...so they'll definitely be able to address the line with a couple of picks as well as DL and other positions.

[Brian Fein]

Miami is going to do both this year... They'll get their QB - whichever QB - with their #5 pick, and then they have 5 more picks during the first 3 rounds...so they'll definitely be able to address the line with a couple of picks as well as DL and other positions.

I certainly hope so.  I am actually an advocate of trading down with the 5 pick and get more picks this year and next year.  But you'd have to forego that QB and get someone to overpay for who's on the board at that pick.

[Tenshot13]

Miami is going to do both this year... They'll get their QB - whichever QB - with their #5 pick, and then they have 5 more picks during the first 3 rounds...so they'll definitely be able to address the line with a couple of picks as well as DL and other positions.

Miami has enough picks to draft whatever QB they want at #5 (not named Burrow), and get pretty much whichever QB they want next year if they wanted to do that (they won't though), AND draft players to fill our o-line.  We can have our cake and eat it too.

[Sunstroke]

Miami has enough picks to draft whatever QB they want at #5 (not named Burrow), and get pretty much whichever QB they want next year if they wanted to do that (they won't though), AND draft players to fill our o-line.  We can have our cake and eat it too.

Exactly!!  And it's a yummy cake too, baked with the freshest early-round ingredients.

I certainly hope so.  I am actually an advocate of trading down with the 5 pick and get more picks this year and next year.  But you'd have to forego that QB and get someone to overpay for who's on the board at that pick.

I occasionally do mocks for Miami where I think "No Tua, no Herbert, trade down from #5 and just grab Jalen Hurts in round 3"  You should see some of the insane collections of talent I get during those mocks...it's ridiculous.  I had one this past weekend where the Raiders traded their #12 & #19 in round 1 for the #5, which meant 4 first rounders.

[Tenshot13]

I certainly hope so.  I am actually an advocate of trading down with the 5 pick and get more picks this year and next year.  But you'd have to forego that QB and get someone to overpay for who's on the board at that pick.

We don't need more picks, we have plenty.  We're going to run out of roster spots for some of these guys.

[Brian Fein]

We don't need more picks, we have plenty.  We're going to run out of roster spots for some of these guys.

Its never a bad thing to have more picks.

[EDGECRUSHER]

You've got two firsts next year.   You won't have to trade seven picks to move up for Lawrence or Fields.  Especially if Houston ends up sucking.

It would be shocking if this team is picking lower than 13 next year, so let's say the 13th and 16th pick (I have no faith in Houston) is not even close to being enough to move up to #1. It would take 3-4 1st rounders and then some. Just not responsible for the team to spend that much.

[Sunstroke]

We don't need more picks, we have plenty.  We're going to run out of roster spots for some of these guys.

I look at the roster the way it is right now...and may have to disagree with you on the first part. Aside from some of the FA's signed this offseason, I see a whole bunch of roster slots that definitely could use a hefty upgrade.

That said, I'd rather get the extra picks by trading down in round 2 than in round 1. 

[Tenshot13]

Nick Saban just came out and said Tua is durable.  Saban is as honest as they come, take it to the bank!

[CF DolFan]

Nick Saban just came out and said Tua is durable.  Saban is as honest as they come, take it to the bank!

Form what I saw/heard ... Saban said he needs to learn to throw the ball away and that all of his injuries happened when there was no play but he was trying to extend it and make something happen. If Tua is to survive in the NFL he will need to learn that quickly.