Anyone still holding out hope for Tua at #5...

[hordman]

Tua is the pick at #5.  Yes, the injuries were there, 2 ankle surgeries (both sides), slight knee injury in Fall '18 and of course the hip in November.

I was the first to be leery of drafting him after this happened. It looked brutal live, i was watching the game.  First thing that came to mind was the Bo Jackson hip injury. I saw that live too in the Cincy playoff game and it looked awkward.

Yet, Bo did nothing about it for nearly a month and by that time, damage was done and he was never the same

They displaced Tua's hip that same hour in the locker room, got him situated and got surgery that nite/next day IIRC. We've come a LONG way in surgery/rehab in the last 30 years.

From initial videos AND doctor's assessment he looks good with fully mobility and I'm sure he's working harder than ever, just his work ethic on the field in Bama.

Burrow and Tua are the ONLY two franchise QBs in this draft.  It's not even close. Don't get caught up in the bullshit and hype that teams throw out there, either to be deceptive or interesting.

Tua's checklist for me:
1. Did he play at a big time college (check)
2. Did he play against big time opponents/talent (check)
3. Was his performance at a high level or elite against that talent (check)

That's all you need to know.  MIA has to swing for the fences on this one.  You play it safe and go with Herbert cause he doesn't have an injury past and he looks decent, you're gonna fock yourself and get yourself a Tannehill 2.0 and be laughed at cause you settled AGAIN.

MIA has THREE draft picks in the 1st round.  They have a chance to make a huge impact on opening nite of the Draft.  If you miss with Tua cause he gets injured down the road, so be it, but he showed you what TALENT he was and that cannot be denied.

Tua is the guy I'd draft and I'll die on that hill whether he pans out or not.

[Spider-Dan]

I'll keep saying this until I'm blue in the face:

If Tua finishes the 2019 season in perfect health, there is absolutely no way MIA would even have the opportunity to draft him.  If he doesn't go #1 to CIN, WSH or DET would definitely draft him themselves.

When fortune smiles upon you, take yes for an answer.  This is the guy who was supposed to make a wasted season worth it.  If MIA drafts Tua at #5 and it turns out that he is too brittle for this league, consider that if he avoids the hip injury last year and MIA went 0-16 to take him #1, he still could have lost his career to injury later on.  RG3 was perfectly healthy when he was drafted.

[masterfins]

I occasionally do mocks for Miami where I think "No Tua, no Herbert, trade down from #5 and just grab Jalen Hurts in round 3"  You should see some of the insane collections of talent I get during those mocks...it's ridiculous.  I had one this past weekend where the Raiders traded their #12 & #19 in round 1 for the #5, which meant 4 first rounders.

I was thinking this the other day, Gruden and the Raiders are crazy enough to give up their two #1's, plus others to move up and take Miami's #5 so Gruden can pick his own QB.  Given what Miami did with the Tunsil trade I could see them accepting this trade of spots.  Not to mention that Tunsil trade keeps looking better and better given Tunsil's contract demands.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I was thinking this the other day, Gruden and the Raiders are crazy enough to give up their two #1's, plus others to move up and take Miami's #5 so Gruden can pick his own QB.  Given what Miami did with the Tunsil trade I could see them accepting this trade of spots.  Not to mention that Tunsil trade keeps looking better and better given Tunsil's contract demands.

Our only option for a QB then is to hope we either land a gem in the 2nd or 3rd round or build a stacked team and see if we can grab a veteran in free agency like a Tom Brady for a one year Superbowl run.

[Downunder Dolphan]

I just hope that Miami keeps and uses it's three first round picks in this draft - we need the talent.

If Tua or Herbert is there at #5, that's good enough for me.

If for some reason Miami feels the need to trade up and burn a second rounder, I don't like it as much but I am still ok with it.

But not one of the other firsts. We have to replace Tunsil & Minkah for starters, those extra picks are reminders of that... 

[Phishfan]

Just say no.

[Fau Teixeira]

i'm good with tua at 5 .. i'm especially excited to watch the draft this year .. it's just about the only sport on if you don't wanna watch taiwaneese baseball

[Tenshot13]

i'm good with tua at 5 .. i'm especially excited to watch the draft this year .. it's just about the only sport on if you don't wanna watch taiwaneese baseball

Me too, and we get to enjoy the whole 1st round with an early, middle and late round pick.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Me too, and we get to enjoy the whole 1st round with an early, middle and late round pick.

The beauty of having so many holes is that your draft night isn't ruined if the guy you want was taken with the pick right before you. You can just pick one of 9 other guys and improve the team.

[masterfins]

Our only option for a QB then is to hope we either land a gem in the 2nd or 3rd round or build a stacked team and see if we can grab a veteran in free agency like a Tom Brady for a one year Superbowl run.

That's not true at all, the Dolphins have plenty of picks next year they could bundle to draft a QB next year.

[hordman]

So Barry Jacksoon wrote an article he said that Miami really likes Herbert, thinks he's the prototypical QB, big, big arm, needs to work on his accuracy.  Basically, saying that Miaimi is not taking Tua.

Barry Jackson may have done significant work on this article, but it's wrong. ALL. WRONG.

If Tua is there at No. 5, Miami is scooping him.  It's a smokescreen cause they don't want to have to worry about LAC making a trade before them, leaping into the no. 4 spot.

You don't pass a QB that was an elite player in college and if not for the hip injury, would have had an amazing season, almost level with Burrows. 

Either this is a smokescreen by MIA to ask Mr. Jackson to write this or Barry really is this dumb

[CF DolFan]

So Barry Jacksoon wrote an article he said that Miami really likes Herbert, thinks he's the prototypical QB, big, big arm, needs to work on his accuracy.  Basically, saying that Miaimi is not taking Tua.

Barry Jackson may have done significant work on this article, but it's wrong. ALL. WRONG.

If Tua is there at No. 5, Miami is scooping him.  It's a smokescreen cause they don't want to have to worry about LAC making a trade before them, leaping into the no. 4 spot.

You don't pass a QB that was an elite player in college and if not for the hip injury, would have had an amazing season, almost level with Burrows. 

Either this is a smokescreen by MIA to ask Mr. Jackson to write this or Barry really is this dumb

Barry is NOT dumb.  Joe Rose said this morning with how far the Dolphins have distanced themselves from Tua it's pretty obvious they are going after Tua ... hahaha.

He also is conducting a poll to see who the fans want and Tua is killing it.

The Joe Rose Show
@JoeRoseShow
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3h
One week from tonight. Who’s your pick? #NFLDraft

Tua - 71.5%
Herbert - 12%
Love - 5.7%
Other - 10.7%

923 votes · 20 hours left

[Pappy13]

Barry is NOT dumb.  Joe Rose said this morning with how far the Dolphins have distanced themselves from Tua it's pretty obvious they are going after Tua ... hahaha.

He also is conducting a poll to see who the fans want and Tua is killing it.

The Joe Rose Show
@JoeRoseShow
·
3h
One week from tonight. Who’s your pick? #NFLDraft

Tua - 71.5%
Herbert - 12%
Love - 5.7%
Other - 10.7%

923 votes · 20 hours left

Fan voting is the way that all NFL drafts should be held. /s

[hordman]

Barry is NOT dumb.  Joe Rose said this morning with how far the Dolphins have distanced themselves from Tua it's pretty obvious they are going after Tua ... hahaha.

So, then you're saying Barry is writing this article for the Dolphins to create a smokescreen? I might have sounded harsh on Barry (my bad) but he's then been asked to write an article for a specific purpose and the desirable outcome for Miami to select Tua

[Pappy13]

So, then you're saying Barry is writing this article for the Dolphins to create a smokescreen? I might have sounded harsh on Barry (my bad) but he's then been asked to write an article for a specific purpose and the desirable outcome for Miami to select Tua

Let's get one thing straight. The Dolphins didn't ask Barry to write the article. Barry wrote the article because he's a journalist and that's what they do. Now for what he puts into the article, it's his opinion. That's it. Nothing more. How he came upon his opinion is hard to say. Maybe he's just going on instincts? Maybe he's actually hearing things that made him believe the way he does? If so were those things said to him to influence the way he was thinking? Certainly possible. Are the Dolphins glad that he wrote the article? Certainly possible. Are they going to draft Tua? Certainly possible. Are they going to draft Herbert? Certainly possible. Are they going to draft someone else? Certainly possible. The only thing that's for certain is that no one outside of the Dolphins organization really knows all the facts including Barry. He's getting bits and pieces of information that he's formulating into an opinion. He doesn't know if the bits and pieces he's getting add up to the full picture or not. No one is coming out and straight up telling Barry what the Dolphins are gonna do. The Dolphins themselves have probably not yet really decided who they will draft. I'm sure they have a plan and I'm sure they have either Tua or Herbert higher on their QB list, but when it comes down to draft day, who knows what might happen that might change their minds. It's all up in the air and it will be that way until they make the choice and then they'll say that's who they wanted all along and we'll never really know if that's the truth or not.