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« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2020, 12:20:26 pm »

Really cool in-depth article on the draft prospects and their their metrics.  

Yes, on average, Tua’s release is quicker than Aaron Rodgers’s. And it’s even faster than the legendary throwing motion of Dan Marino. It’s that quick.

https://medium.com/@thetim_dix/nfl-draft-how-strong-is-joe-burrows-arm-b69abd897399

Per the Reddit Post I found the article through--Tua's release is quicker than Dan Marino's. Jordan Love's maximum launch velocity is the equivalent of a 98 MPH fastball. And Joe Burrow's decision making measured frame by frame.

Being a QB in football is the only time for a man when being called out for having a "quick release" isn't a horrible insult.    Grin

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« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2020, 12:56:49 pm »

Falcons are supposedly trying to make a big splash and draft one of the Top 2 CB in the draft. They may trade all the way up to 3 or 4 to get it done. Matt Ryan is under an unmovable contract for another 4 years so if they trade up, it ain't for a QB.

This would be good for the Tua to Miami crowd.
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« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2020, 01:09:01 pm »

Just passing this along  .... Rumor has it the Dolphins will be making a very aggressive move to get Burrow. Stephen Ross will be 80 in a couple of weeks and wants to win. Tua or anyone else is at least another year or so from starting and who knows how much time Ross has left.
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« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2020, 01:39:14 pm »

Just passing this along  .... Rumor has it the Dolphins will be making a very aggressive move to get Burrow. Stephen Ross will be 80 in a couple of weeks and wants to win. Tua or anyone else is at least another year or so from starting and who knows how much time Ross has left.

I'm sure we already made a very generous offer to the Bengals already, but it's not going to happen. Like I've said elsewhere, it's one thing to try to move up and get a franchise QB. It's quite another to move up for a franchise QB that the drafting team already wants desperately. It's going to cost us at least 3 1st Rounders to move up, not counting the #5 pick of course. It's just not worth the cost. Tua will be learning behind a very smart QB who is also a great teammate. Excellent position for him to be in, he may even get to start some games towards the end of the season.

No bullshit, if our 2020 draft picks and free agency moves pan out, we can become a contender in 2021 with another good draft haul. The Patriots are dead, the Jets are run like shit and the Bills don't have a franchise QB. We can do this if we hit on this draft. Ross may not have to wait long but he will if we give up every big draft pick we got.
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« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2020, 01:49:11 pm »

I'm sure we already made a very generous offer to the Bengals already, but it's not going to happen.
Possibly ... but as of late last week Armando was saying that although we plan to we hadn't to that point.
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« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2020, 02:50:00 pm »

If the choice is between:

1) Burrow
2) Tua and keeping 3 more first-round picks

...this is an extremely easy decision.  Several analysts rate Tua as having a higher ceiling than Burrow.
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« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2020, 02:56:05 pm »

 Several analysts rate Tua as having a higher ceiling than Burrow.
I don't disagree but almost all think Burrow has a better shot of staying healthy.
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« Reply #112 on: April 20, 2020, 03:03:53 pm »

If "Tua has a quicker release than Marino" wasn't a sign that we should draft him, I don't know what is.
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« Reply #113 on: April 20, 2020, 03:04:20 pm »

If the choice is between:

1) Burrow
2) Tua and keeping 3 more first-round picks

...this is an extremely easy decision.  Several analysts rate Tua as having a higher ceiling than Burrow.

It's not even a decision really, every single person would pick Tua and the draft picks. If it was Burrow for a first rounder, a 2nd and some other stuff then we can talk but that isn't going to happen.
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« Reply #114 on: April 20, 2020, 03:19:00 pm »

I don't disagree but almost all think Burrow has a better shot of staying healthy.
That just turns the decision into, "Are you willing to bet 3 firsts that Burrow will be healthier than Tua?"
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« Reply #115 on: April 20, 2020, 04:15:29 pm »

No bullshit, if our 2020 draft picks and free agency moves pan out, we can become a contender in 2021 with another good draft haul. The Patriots are dead, the Jets are run like shit and the Bills don't have a franchise QB. We can do this if we hit on this draft. Ross may not have to wait long but he will if we give up every big draft pick we got.

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« Reply #116 on: April 21, 2020, 07:53:24 pm »

That just turns the decision into, "Are you willing to bet 3 firsts that Burrow will be healthier than Tua?"

I still say they need to think more broadly and be willing to skip trading the house for Burrow or risk tying themselves to a recovering Tua.

Be willing not to draft a QB this year, and go all in on Trevor Lawrence in 2021.
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« Reply #117 on: April 21, 2020, 09:22:11 pm »

I still say they need to think more broadly and be willing to skip trading the house for Burrow or risk tying themselves to a recovering Tua.

Be willing not to draft a QB this year, and go all in on Trevor Lawrence in 2021.

I'd take Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence. 
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« Reply #118 on: April 21, 2020, 10:04:03 pm »

I still say they need to think more broadly and be willing to skip trading the house for Burrow or risk tying themselves to a recovering Tua.

Be willing not to draft a QB this year, and go all in on Trevor Lawrence in 2021.

If you're willing to trade 3-4 first rounders for a QB, might as well do it this year for Burrow than next year for Lawrence.
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« Reply #119 on: April 21, 2020, 10:10:41 pm »

Be willing not to draft a QB this year, and go all in on Trevor Lawrence in 2021.
The only way to go all in on Lawrence is to win 0 games, as there is a high chance that the #1 overall team will strongly desire to keep him.  If MIA was aiming to do that, they shouldn't have signed the highest-paid CB duo in the league.

The only trade that would have pried Andrew Luck out of the hands of the Colts would have make the Ditka trade for Ricky Williams look moderate and restrained.
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