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MyGodWearsAHoodie
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2020, 08:38:58 am »

Talking about Nike's shitty practices is whataboutism.

Whataboutism is the way complete and total assholes justify their selfish and hateful ways by finding barely comparable flaws in others. 

They justify the pathologically lying of Trump with a single misstatement by Obama about AHA.

They justify one teams use of a slur by other teams using nonslur  nicknames.

They justify systematic and  systemic racism by police department with isolated counterexamples.

It is the favorite tool of the far right propaganda machine.  And no doubt someone will respond to this post pointing out a time in which someone on the left barely an analogous argument, claiming that disproves my assertion that it is a right-wing tactic but on fact confirming it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2020, 02:14:02 pm »

Next they will be coming after the Patriots logo, you know a lot of those Patriots owned slaves. lol  The new logic will be that they are being glorified as a mascot, so they should have to change the name.  Some people just aren't happy if they don't have something to complain about, and the "news" media does all it can to inflame every situation to garner clicks.
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2020, 03:50:00 am »

If you think "Patriots" and "Redskins" are pretty close to the same thing, then you are contributing to the problem.  One of them is a honorific, while the other is a racial slur.  This kind of thinking is in line with, "If NASCAR gets rid of Confederate flags, then next thing they will have to put racial quotas on driving teams."  It's ridiculous and absurd.

But the most disappointing part of this is: what do you hope to accomplish with that kind of talk?  Is your goal for people to say, "You're right!  We should keep calling them the Redskins forever, or else we will have to also rename the Patriots"?

What's the point of that take?
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2020, 12:46:42 pm »

The point of the argument is intentional false equivalence to try to discredit the original thing.

If we let gays marry, what's next -- are you going to let people marry a duck?  It's that.
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2020, 04:13:17 pm »

Next they will be coming after the Patriots logo, you know a lot of those Patriots owned slaves. lol  The new logic will be that they are being glorified as a mascot, so they should have to change the name.  Some people just aren't happy if they don't have something to complain about, and the "news" media does all it can to inflame every situation to garner clicks.

Nobody wants confederate statues toppled because they owned slaves.  This is a totally false narrative in the claim that if you take down Lee you need to take down Washington.  Lee doesn’t deserve a monument because if committed treason against the US to defend slavery. Washington didn’t fight a war to preserve slavery.
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2020, 04:35:52 pm »

The point of the argument is intentional false equivalence to try to discredit the original thing.

If we let gays marry, what's next -- are you going to let people marry a duck?  It's that.

That's exactly what's going to come next.  People are going to want to marry their pets and add them to their health benefits at work. 

And this whole thing about identifying as a different gender and now there's even more than two genders out there.  You're going to see a whole bunch of kids growing up confused and not knowing how to handle the real world.  Then you will see the suicide rate spike.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2020, 05:24:22 pm »

If you want to know why y'all lost the war on same-sex marriage, one of the reasons is your continual insistence on comparing marrying a human of the same sex to marrying a pet.

Humans are not comparable to pets.  This is why every pet is expected to have a legal owner, while owning another human has been outlawed for 150 years in this country.
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2020, 12:25:09 pm »

If you want to know why y'all lost the war on same-sex marriage, one of the reasons is your continual insistence on comparing marrying a human of the same sex to marrying a pet.

Humans are not comparable to pets.  This is why every pet is expected to have a legal owner, while owning another human has been outlawed for 150 years in this country.

To be fair: one of the argument made against legalizing interracial marriages is that allowing interracial marriages would lead to homosexual marriages...so the bigots got that one right.  😀😀😀
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2020, 02:12:30 pm »

That's exactly what's going to come next.

I'm interested in what kind of timeline until we pass laws allowing people to marry their pets for health insurance purposes.  Is that just on the horizon or are we a ways off?
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2020, 02:36:48 pm »

That's exactly what's going to come next.  People are going to want to marry their pets and add them to their health benefits at work. 

And this whole thing about identifying as a different gender and now there's even more than two genders out there.  You're going to see a whole bunch of kids growing up confused and not knowing how to handle the real world.  Then you will see the suicide rate spike.
Is this real life?  Guy can't tell the difference between a human and a dog?  And of all the reasons - for HEALTH INSURANCE!  OMG... hahaha

Wow...
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2020, 03:52:55 pm »

Is this real life?  Guy can't tell the difference between a human and a dog?  And of all the reasons - for HEALTH INSURANCE!  OMG... hahaha

Wow...

Vet bills can be pretty expensive ya know.  Plus I know quite a few people who like to spoil their dogs and treat them like people.
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2020, 01:32:08 pm »

The Washington Football Team


Weird at first, but kinda gives you a soccer vibe.  Like Los Angeles FC or whatever.
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2020, 02:02:03 pm »

yeah i wish they had gone with Washington Football Club.. that would have been a better Washington FC theme to it .. but i guess  WFT is a perfect acornym for that team
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2020, 03:47:10 pm »

The Washington "Thanks For Sticking With Haskins So We Can Take Tuas" would've been a better name.
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2020, 03:54:18 pm »

They should have stuck with The Redskins and changed the logo

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