Fox News calls it for 46th President Joe Biden

[CF DolFan]

Man, I wish I was back at the time in my life where I thought $25k was the good life. I had no idea how the world worked either then.

It's all relative. Plenty of people perfectly content to live on the streets and collect money at intersections. We used to run up on camps all the time when I was in the Geotech field. They share a car and take baths in a lake or stormwater pond but have no desire to work and live like what we would consider a normal life.

[Spider-Dan]

It is the good life, from what I see, since those people drink, smoke, and party all day.

I don't think the online dating scene is a reliable barometer of how "those people" live.

[Phishfan]

I know the camps and can show you many. Of them. To hear a guy working two jobs to think that is the good life???

[Spider-Dan]

It's all relative. Plenty of people perfectly content to live on the streets and collect money at intersections. We used to run up on camps all the time when I was in the Geotech field. They share a car and take baths in a lake or stormwater pond but have no desire to work and live like what we would consider a normal life.

Do you look at people living that lifestyle and think, "Man, they have it so good... I wish I could trade places with them"?

I mean, they are living a life that I think you and I agree is pretty terrible.  Isn't that bad enough?  Or do they need to actually be miserable for it to count as a crappy life?

[dolphins4life]

Do you look at people living that lifestyle and think, "Man, they have it so good... I wish I could trade places with them"?

I mean, they are living a life that I think you and I agree is pretty terrible.  Isn't that bad enough?  Or do they need to actually be miserable for it to count as a crappy life?

I look at people working 20 hours a week and getting benefits and I definitely think that.

Or not working at all, and definitely think that.

Every time I wake up for work, I wish I could go back to sleep and then get up and do whatever I want.

[Fau Teixeira]

I look at people working 20 hours a week and getting benefits and I definitely think that.

Or not working at all, and definitely think that.

Every time I wake up for work, I wish I could go back to sleep and then get up and do whatever I want.

But you can, you can literally do whatever you want. If that lifestyle is that appealing to you, go for it.

I'd rather raise the floor for everyone rather than try to bring it lower just so you feel better about you relative to those who have less than you do.

Remember, this is a socialist country for the rich. It's only ruggedly capitalistic for the little guy

[dolphins4life]

But you can, you can literally do whatever you want. If that lifestyle is that appealing to you, go for it.

I'd rather raise the floor for everyone rather than try to bring it lower just so you feel better about you relative to those who have less than you do.

Remember, this is a socialist country for the rich. It's only ruggedly capitalistic for the little guy

Too late for me now.  I can't just quit my jobs and apply for disability.  I'd never get on.

What those people do is apply before they work, so they can fool the system into thinking they can't work.

[Spider-Dan]

...you do know that there are people on disability who have previously worked in their lifetime, right?
Even more than that: you can work, and then go on disability, and then recover and go back to work, and then get worse and go back on disability, etc.

This happens frequently, as a human's current health status can improve OR decline over time.

Given your general attitude towards disability, I have to wonder: do you believe that there are no truly disabled people who deserve to be on disability?  If you believe some (most?) people are faking it, do you think you could also fake it?

Every time I wake up for work, I wish I could go back to sleep and then get up and do whatever I want.

You actually can do this, and you don't even need to be on disability.  CF just explained one way to do so.

The "poverty line" lifestyle may not be as glamorous as you think.

[dolphins4life]

Some people truly are disabled, but many COULD work, but choose not too.

Many jobs don't require much.  Like greeting people at a store. 

Or bagging groceries.  Or being a delivery driver.

I just see many people collecting disability who CAN work. 

Like that person I told you about in the beginning of the thread.  She explicitly stated she COULD work more hours, but she'd rather get the fat check. 

I've asked you if you are married, because if you are you probably aren't exposed to it like I am.

Many people who collect are as disabled, or less disabled than I am. 

And yes they ARE living the good life.

Here's another example I'll give

I was talking a girl with a son in 2017 on POF.  I told her what I did for a living (Healthcare and Retail).

She said unfortunately she didn't work, she got social security for "mental health". 

When she told me she never worked, I told her I was not interested.  She accused me of being stuck up.  She blocked me before I could respond with, 'I'm not stuck up, I just don't think it's fair  I have mental issues, too.  You get to live the good life.  All your needs are provided for and you can go to bed every night and do whatever you want the next day.  Are you telling me you are so messed up you can't work, but you can raise a child?  Are you telling me you can't be a store greeter?  Are you telling me you can't put groceries into a bag?  Or items onto a shelf?  I don't buy it.

[Spider-Dan]

Again, you probably shouldn't use your dating life as a measuring stick for how lower-income people live in this country.

I'm not married, but I'm also not obsessed with punishing failed matches on dating sites.  It is somewhat troubling that nearly all of your examples of how the system is broken happen to be women whom you unsuccessfully attempted to date.

[Sunstroke]

And I still don't think a Trump conviction would change the mind of a single Trump voter.)

For the sake of reality, I hope you were being massively facetious there.

A person can run for President from a prison cell, but they cannot win a Presidential election from that cell. The GOP would understand this and make sure that Trump didn't win the primary.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

. The GOP would understand this and make sure that Trump didn't win the primary.

I think you are overestimating the GOP.

[dolphins4life]

Again, you probably shouldn't use your dating life as a measuring stick for how lower-income people live in this country.

I'm not married, but I'm also not obsessed with punishing failed matches on dating sites.  It is somewhat troubling that nearly all of your examples of how the system is broken happen to be women whom you unsuccessfully attempted to date.

Not necessarily unsuccessful.  I ended communication with them as soon as I found out they were living the good life.  It would awkward to date somebody when you are jealous of them.

You can also youtube this topic, if you have bowl handy to puke into.

[Spider-Dan]

A person can run for President from a prison cell, but they cannot win a Presidential election from that cell.

Actually, they can.  As long as they meet the requirements to hold the office - natural-born citizen that is at least 35 years old and has not previously served two terms - they would indeed be eligible to be elected president.

There is some question as to whether the VP would be acting President until the President-elect finishes their sentence, but the general presumption is that if that were the case, the acting President would immediately pardon the President-elect (in accordance with the will of the voters who elected them).

[Sunstroke]

    

The only world where a convicted felon, in prison, could win a US Presidential election is not the world where the US currently resides.