Gase Fired

[dolphins4life]

The guy sti hods a specia pace in Dophins history

[ArtieChokePhin]

They didn't waste any time.  Black Monday began early. 

[ArtieChokePhin]

Jags fired Doug Marrone.   That job is very attractive.  They've got the number one pick, 11 picks total and $100 million in cap space

[EDGECRUSHER]

Jags fired Doug Marrone.   That job is very attractive.  They've got the number one pick, 11 picks total and $100 million in cap space

If Anthony Lynn is fired, that will be a very attractive job too but the Jags are probably #1 right now. I don't know too much about their management, whether they are incompetent or just have bad luck building a winner like we have had.

[Dave Gray]

^ I heard whispers of Urban Meyer in Jax.

[EDGECRUSHER]

^ I heard whispers of Urban Meyer in Jax.

Yeah, that is the likeliest hire and should be a good one. Well respected and has connections to Florida. Then again, even great coaches like Saban can have a hard time adjusting to the NFL.

[Dave Gray]

Yeah, that is the likeliest hire and should be a good one. Well respected and has connections to Florida. Then again, even great coaches like Saban can have a hard time adjusting to the NFL.

It's a different animal.  I am realizing as I get older that college coaching is a different skill set than the NFL.  You can find guys that can do both, but there's a tactic in college, where you can be a strongman and use intimidation or fear as a tactic.  You have so much power, these kids rely on you to get playing time, to get seen, to get drafted -- so much of your career depends on one man, so there's a weird power dynamic.

In the NFL, a player doesn't have to take your abusive shit and can walk and another team will likely pick them up.

That's why I think a guy like Saban didn't work.  He can do the Xs and Os part, but I don't think you can bully millionaire adults into doing what you want like you can with 19 year old broke-ass kids.

[EDGECRUSHER]

That's exactly what happened with Saban. 34 year old Linebacker with $30 Million in the bank won't tolerate your bullying unless your NFL pedigree is immaculate and even then.

[Sunstroke]

I hear folks keep talking about college coaches bullying players...but not once did I ever hear anything along those lines with Nick Saban.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Pete Carroll, the current era most successful jump, is not exactly known as being authoritarian.

[Pappy13]

It's a different animal.  I am realizing as I get older that college coaching is a different skill set than the NFL.  You can find guys that can do both, but there's a tactic in college, where you can be a strongman and use intimidation or fear as a tactic.  You have so much power, these kids rely on you to get playing time, to get seen, to get drafted -- so much of your career depends on one man, so there's a weird power dynamic.

In the NFL, a player doesn't have to take your abusive shit and can walk and another team will likely pick them up.

That's why I think a guy like Saban didn't work.  He can do the Xs and Os part, but I don't think you can bully millionaire adults into doing what you want like you can with 19 year old broke-ass kids.

The other half of being a college coach is recruiting. That's the part that you don't see on Saturday's and where at least half if not more of the games are decided. Guys like Saban know how to get the best players to commit to their school. There's simply nothing like this dynamic in professional sports and it's why some guys don't make it in the NFL after tremendous success in college.

[ArtieChokePhin]

If Anthony Lynn is fired, that will be a very attractive job too but the Jags are probably #1 right now. I don't know too much about their management, whether they are incompetent or just have bad luck building a winner like we have had.

Chargers have parted ways with Anthony Lynn

[EDGECRUSHER]

Chargers have parted ways with Anthony Lynn

Compared to the Jaguars and Chargers, who the hell would want the Texans job? They have a great QB and no one else, plus no draft picks or cap space. They'll get someone because there are only 32 jobs at any given moment, but it will be a retread like Marvin Lewis or some 34 year old coordinator.

[masterfins]

The Jets HC job has got to be one of the worst jobs available.  The team has so many holes and no players that they can trade to pickup some future draft picks.  Everyone is talking about them drafting another QB, but IMO that's not going to do them any good with their other existing players.  They need to focus on building from the lines up, and hope they get really lucky with ALL of their draft picks.  Then maybe in three years they might be respectable.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The Jets HC job has got to be one of the worst jobs available.  The team has so many holes and no players that they can trade to pickup some future draft picks.  Everyone is talking about them drafting another QB, but IMO that's not going to do them any good with their other existing players.  They need to focus on building from the lines up, and hope they get really lucky with ALL of their draft picks.  Then maybe in three years they might be respectable.

Plus the NY media which is always a nightmare. I think only the Texans job is worse.