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« on: March 02, 2021, 01:43:48 pm »

He's one year into a 4 year $51 million deal.  $30 million of it is guaranteed.   

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2021, 01:50:32 pm »

I was just coming to post something on this. He didn't have a bad year but not great either. This saves $9.8M in cap space.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2021, 02:12:19 pm »

$15 Million was guaranteed.

The cap savings jumps to almost $13 Million if it is a June 1st cut. Hope we have a backup plan since not everyone can be a rookie.

EDIT: I've seen the $15 Million and $30 Million number reported in different places. $30 Million guaranteed is a ton and they wouldn't cut him if he still had a good chunk of that left so I think it's $15 Million.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2021, 02:14:40 pm »

I'm kind of surprised by this. He was the anchor of a defense that took great strides. Last season, Van Noy was second all NFL linebackers in pressures (29, one behind Demario Davis) and had 69 tackles and six sacks, six passes defended and two forced fumbles.

We immediately will need to replace him and I find it hard to believe we will find better

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2021, 02:23:28 pm »

I wonder if this is to free up for a guy like Von Miller or Shaq Barrett
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2021, 02:25:37 pm »

"I am surprised and disappointed in their decision. As a captain, I gave my all to the team. I fought through a painful hip injury during the season, including spending a night in the hospital after a game. I was brought there to be a leader and I know my teammates looked up to and respected me. I am looking forward to making an impact on my next team, on and off the field."

Looking inside the numbers, he wasn't great last year but he was a respected teammate and cap space is only good if you use it so I guess we got some free agency plans.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2021, 02:26:57 pm »

I wonder if this is to free up for a guy like Von Miller or Shaq Barrett

It has to be for something, Ross isn't an owner who pockets the money.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2021, 02:49:07 pm »

You mean to tell me that signing yet another Patriots castoff didn't end up working out for the long term?
Surely this outcome could not have been foretold...

Generally not a fan of the Patriots South approach.  How many NE players have left Foxborough and went on to play well elsewhere?
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2021, 04:20:32 pm »

He was solid last year and would have been even better if not for the injuries.  But just as important was the presence in the locker room and as a leader on the field for a very young defense.  I'm pretty surprised by the move.  But I wouldn't think they would do it unless they had some kind of a plan in mind.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2021, 04:34:59 pm »

This is definitely a loss for Miami
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2021, 06:44:20 pm »

It has to be for something, Ross isn't an owner who pockets the money.

Ross still has to pay him for the season since it was guaranteed, so he isn't pocketing any money.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2021, 06:51:12 pm »

$15 Million was guaranteed.

The cap savings jumps to almost $13 Million if it is a June 1st cut. Hope we have a backup plan since not everyone can be a rookie.

EDIT: I've seen the $15 Million and $30 Million number reported in different places. $30 Million guaranteed is a ton and they wouldn't cut him if he still had a good chunk of that left so I think it's $15 Million.

According to Spotrac $15M was guaranteed at signing, and $30M was the total guaranteed amount; kind of weird - perhaps it was front loaded to use cap space last year??? 

So it looks like he earned $35.5M for a single season - $5.5M signing bonus plus the $30M guaranteed pay.  2021 Cap hit for the Dolphins is $4,125,000 in dead money (3/4 of the bonus, since a four year contract).
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2021, 08:43:28 pm »

According to Spotrac $15M was guaranteed at signing, and $30M was the total guaranteed amount; kind of weird - perhaps it was front loaded to use cap space last year??? 

So it looks like he earned $35.5M for a single season - $5.5M signing bonus plus the $30M guaranteed pay.  2021 Cap hit for the Dolphins is $4,125,000 in dead money (3/4 of the bonus, since a four year contract).


$15 Million was guaranteed for injury, so the guaranteed money is done and we don't owe him anymore. Would've been one of the worst deals of all time if we paid him $30 Million guaranteed. We structured it where it allowed us to cut him after 1 year and slightly overpaid for one year. Wasn't a bad deal, just didn't work out.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2021, 07:31:15 am »

This is definitely a loss for Miami
Not really.  Andrew Van Ginkel outplayed him, and Shaq Lawson is still around.  That's not even considering drafting a stud or bringing in a FA with the freed up cap space.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2021, 03:56:40 pm »

$15 Million was guaranteed for injury, so the guaranteed money is done and we don't owe him anymore. Would've been one of the worst deals of all time if we paid him $30 Million guaranteed. We structured it where it allowed us to cut him after 1 year and slightly overpaid for one year. Wasn't a bad deal, just didn't work out.

Okay that makes sense.  I was wondering why the only dead cap money for 2021 was the remainder of the signing bonus ($4.125M).  He still probably got $18.25M for the one season ($5.5M signing bonus, plus $12.75M regular pay (1/4 of the $51M four year contract).
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