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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2021, 04:41:17 pm »

Thanks for the link. Yeah, that was pretty bad.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2021, 05:24:10 pm »

There was  no rule preventing it. Sucks for us but they found the loophole

If we're still talking about the snowplow play, I was reading something about anything that gives a team an unfair advantage is inherently against the rules.  It doesn't have to be specifically spelled out.  The NFL rules after the fact that it was an unfair advantage to only plow for one team's specific kick and none of the others, but it was too late to do anything about it.

It's weird because the refs made the rule up that they could plow, right there on the field, which was their right to do.  They couldn't see the lines, so they made a call.  The screwjob came because the plow operator was a pats fan and specifically drove well off the yardline to plow the spot they were kicking from.  I think the right call would've been to penalize the patriots for some kind of stadium intereference and make them kick from the new spot.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2021, 05:27:20 pm »

Wow, that Pitt play was a big screwjob.  I can't even watch all of it.  It still pisses me off.  LOL.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2021, 05:37:16 pm »

Interesting on the illegal bat call against the Patriots in 2013.

In 2010, Miami faced New England on Monday Night.  Miami was losing 27-14 and lined up for a field goal attempt.  It was blocked and New England returned it for a touchdown.  However, the replay showed that a New England player had batted the ball forward before Kyle Arrington returned the ball for the score.  If that had been called, Miami would have had a first down deep in New England territory down by two scores.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2021, 04:28:22 pm »

If we're still talking about the snowplow play, I was reading something about anything that gives a team an unfair advantage is inherently against the rules.  It doesn't have to be specifically spelled out.  The NFL rules after the fact that it was an unfair advantage to only plow for one team's specific kick and none of the others, but it was too late to do anything about it.

It's weird because the refs made the rule up that they could plow, right there on the field, which was their right to do.  They couldn't see the lines, so they made a call.  The screwjob came because the plow operator was a pats fan and specifically drove well off the yardline to plow the spot they were kicking from.  I think the right call would've been to penalize the patriots for some kind of stadium intereference and make them kick from the new spot.

I think where it gets tricky is the operator did it on his own.  If the Pats coach had directed him to do it — pretty easy case to penalize the team.  But penalizing the team for something a rouge fan did, now the the other team has a valid argument that they were treated unfairly for something they had nothing to do with. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2021, 09:13:07 pm »

I think where it gets tricky is the operator did it on his own.  If the Pats coach had directed him to do it — pretty easy case to penalize the team.  But penalizing the team for something a rouge fan did, now the the other team has a valid argument that they were treated unfairly for something they had nothing to do with. 

If I recall he was a convict on weekend work release.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2021, 09:39:18 pm »

If I recall he was a convict on weekend work release.
Yep. After the game He even said something along the lines of “what are they going to do? Arrest me?”
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2021, 09:28:19 am »

I think where it gets tricky is the operator did it on his own.  If the Pats coach had directed him to do it — pretty easy case to penalize the team.  But penalizing the team for something a rouge fan did, now the the other team has a valid argument that they were treated unfairly for something they had nothing to do with. 

This is total bullshit, off-the-top-of-my-head stuff, but I think...I THINK....that the home team is responsible for stuff like that.  And that the host team is responsible for things like that and can be penalized.  ...like for playing crowd noise in the speakers, playing music over the offensive huddle (if against the rules), etc.  All those people are in the team's employ, so it would be like penalizing a conditioning coach for some infraction.
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2021, 11:14:27 am »

Do you remember the Leon Lett play on Thanksgiving?

Doug Pederson was the holder for the field goal attempt.  He worked hard to clear the spot for the next kick, which led to some drama because the ref kept changing where the ball was going to be spotted.  Oddly, though, he used his foot.  I think it would have been more effective to use his towel, or sweep his arms.     
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2021, 11:16:41 am »

Do you remember the Leon Lett play on Thanksgiving?

I do.

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Doug Pederson was the holder for the field goal attempt.  He worked hard to clear the spot for the next kick, which led to some drama because the ref kept changing where the ball was going to be spotted.  Oddly, though, he used his foot.  I think it would have been more effective to use his towel, or sweep his arms.     

Maybe....it's also just frozen ground you're dealing with.  And it's the kicker's placement foot that's probably just as much of an issue.  The Leon Lett play was more about that particular player not knowing the rules.
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