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« on: April 15, 2021, 11:57:46 am »

Soon four more justices will be added to the court.  I wonder why trump didn't try this when he was president.  Given the disasterous path we have gone in since Biden took over, it is worrisome to have a wore court
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 12:44:17 pm »

That will never happen.  Supreme Court is and has always been nine justices.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2021, 12:50:58 pm »

Supreme Court is and has always been nine justices.

False.

Not counting vacancies for dead people, there have been:
6 in 1789
7 in 1807
9 in 1837
10 in 1863
7 in 1866
9 in 1869
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2021, 02:53:36 pm »

They don't have the votes to ram it through and Pelosi said that she wouldn't even bring it to a vote.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2021, 04:00:47 pm »

Soon four more justices will be added to the court.  I wonder why trump didn't try this when he was president. 

Trump didn't try it for the exact same reason that the Democrats will fail if they try it.  Trump lacked the Congressional votes to accomplish it and so do the Democrats. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2021, 04:46:19 pm »

Trump didn't try it for the exact same reason that the Democrats will fail if they try it.  Trump lacked the Congressional votes to accomplish it and so do the Democrats. 

The Democrats have both houses and the executive branch.  How can they be stopped from pushing any law they want?
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2021, 05:21:11 pm »

The Democrats have both houses and the executive branch.  How can they be stopped from pushing any law they want?

Because the Democrats aren't a single being who all vote the same way, first of all.

And secondly, the senate currently has a filibuster for everything except a couple of budget things, which means it would require 60 votes.  So, they'd have to overturn the filibuster first, then get all 50 of 50 Senators to vote the same way.

It's possible, but not very likely.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2021, 06:16:34 pm »

It's possible, but not very likely.
Not very likely, especially if they can't even get Pelosi on board. Overall it's a bad idea anyhow
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2021, 10:54:51 pm »

Not super interested in these alligator tears about how terrible this idea would be, after the stunts Republicans pulled with Merrick Garland and Amy Coney Barrett.

Mitch McConnell made it crystal clear that the only rule is: you pass whatever the hell you want if you can get the votes for it.  The filibuster did not stop McConnell from doing a single thing that he wanted to.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2021, 08:16:41 am »

Not super interested in these alligator tears about how terrible this idea would be, after the stunts Republicans pulled with Merrick Garland and Amy Coney Barrett.

Mitch McConnell made it crystal clear that the only rule is: you pass whatever the hell you want if you can get the votes for it.  The filibuster did not stop McConnell from doing a single thing that he wanted to.
No tears here. Remember elections have consequences. You guys didn't have the numbers and votes at the right time, that's the way it works.

Or conversely, maybe this year the Dolphins will try to change the rules at halftime to their benefit because they're losing the game. Anyhow, as of today it's a moot point. Maybe you'll get lucky and next week will be different. Midterms should be interesting this year, haha.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2021, 09:23:15 am »

Not super interested in these alligator tears about how terrible this idea would be, after the stunts Republicans pulled with Merrick Garland and Amy Coney Barrett.

Exactly... Anything the Democrats do to alleviate Trump's hijacking of the Judiciary is fine by me.



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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2021, 09:36:03 am »

Exactly... Anything the Democrats do to alleviate Trump's hijacking of the Judiciary is fine by me.
No one hijacked anything. Did you think Trump was going to nominate some whack job liberal to the SC? He did what he was elected to do.

The dems simply lost at their own game and now you're all in your feelings about it. Every time you guys try to rig the game it comes back to bite you in the ass. Go ahead, make the court 13 and see what happens. It will bite you in the ass again LMAO
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2021, 03:48:07 pm »

Too many people on both sides that know this is a bad idea in the long run so I don't see it happening. In my lifetime I've never seen so many power hungry politicians but there are enough good guys and gals on both sides to keep this from happening.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2021, 10:33:58 pm »

It’s easy for you to say.  We got a seat stolen and now you just want us to take it.  I hope we pack the courts.  It would better reflect the electorate anyway.  Political norms are gone...just grab power any way you can if the other side is going to.  There’s no other choice.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2021, 12:03:48 am »

No tears here. Remember elections have consequences. You guys didn't have the numbers and votes at the right time, that's the way it works.
You should tell that to CF, who is over here whining about how "people on both sides know this is a bad idea."  But when Mitch McConnell was blocking Merrick Garland, or confirming Amy Coney Barrett 9 days before an election?  No worries at all from CF then.

It's crystal clear that the only rule now are you pass whatever you can pass; power is power.  This entire thread is a smokescreen, designed to try to distract from the power grabs by Senate Republicans that have already taken place.  I don't want to hear any more nonsense about "unprecedented actions."
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