Chauvin verdict reached

[ArtieChokePhin]

Is there anybody on this site who has been a cop?

I have a family member who is an LEO.  I think this guy got strung up big time because of the political and social justice climate.   There was no cartoid artery damage to Floyd's neck, meaning he did not die of asphyxiation.  Chauvin should've been found guilty of something for putting a knee on his neck, but not for second degree murder.

He's going to appeal and he'll probably get the second degree murder conviction thrown out, or at least get a re-trial.   That's what I'm predicting. 

[Dave Gray]

Do you thin Biden impacted the verdict?

No.  It's possible that societal pressure at large mattered, but not specifically Biden.

[Dave Gray]

I'm ignorant to how the charges work.  How can you be found guilty of 2nd degree murder and 3rd degree murder?  I would've thought it's whatever is the worse of the two...

[Sunstroke]

Do you thin Biden impacted the verdict?

Since he waited until the jury was sequestered before he chimed in...the answer is an obvious "No!"

We wi see if this causes more cops to quit and fewer who want to become cops.

Or maybe it will mean that people who enjoy physically dominating other people will choose a different profession.

[pondwater]

Or maybe it will mean that people who enjoy physically dominating other people will choose a different profession.

Yeah, that's pretty much what resisting arrest is. Trying to physically dominate the situation to your own benefit.

[Spider-Dan]

He's going to appeal and he'll probably get the second degree murder conviction thrown out, or at least get a re-trial.   That's what I'm predicting. 

Why would you believe that just the Murder 2 (but not the other charges) would be thrown out?  If your argument is that the jury was unduly influenced, shouldn't all charges be overturned?

Seems like a lot of wishcasting going on.

[CF DolFan]

I have no issue with the verdict. I just wish it wasn't being sold as a race issue as it was an asshole cop issue.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Why would you believe that just the Murder 2 (but not the other charges) would be thrown out?  If your argument is that the jury was unduly influenced, shouldn't all charges be overturned?

Seems like a lot of wishcasting going on.

If the jury was unduly influenced, then yes all charges should be overturned.  That being said, the knee on the neck isn't what killed Floyd.  So Chauvin should've been found guilty of a lesser charge

[Tenshot13]

I have no issue with the verdict. I just wish it wasn't being sold as a race issue as it was an asshole cop issue.

Bro, everything is being sold as a race issue.

[CF DolFan]

Bro, everything is being sold as a race issue.

That's why I hate it so much. The term racist mean little these days except to those mighty cancel culture warriors.

[dolphins4life]

Claims from Shapiro and the crazy right: 

1) he was not on his neck, but on his back

2) chauvin’s actions had nothing to do with what happened

3) his level of drugs were much higher than the lethal level

Maybe they should have been his lawyers

[Spider-Dan]

That's why I hate it so much. The term racist mean little these days except to those mighty cancel culture warriors.

racism has been eliminated in America, except for racism against white people, which is pervasive

[dolphins4life]

The lethal dose of fentanyl is 2.0 mg.   Floyd had 11 nanograms.  That's much less.  Am I missing something?

[Dave Gray]

I have no issue with the verdict. I just wish it wasn't being sold as a race issue as it was an asshole cop issue.

I mean, in this case, it is a race issue.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vaccum.  The black community has been complaining for 100 years about abuse from the police.  Remember in the 80s, when all these people were getting killed and beaten by police and they had to have 6 cops take them down because they were all on PCP?

Then Rodney King happened...you saw a guy get beat by a bunch of cops on camera, while he crawled around on the ground.  ...no convictions.  George Zimmerman tracked down and murdered an unarmed child with no conviction.  They smeared the name of the kid and let Zimmerman off.  He does tours and signs packages of skittles and tea for fans. This is all highly publicized and half the country have (and still are) blaming the victims.  Philandro Castillo is killed in his car for no reason.

Then this guy is murdered in front of a crowd of people pleading for his life, on top of all these other recent cases.  Now, look around -- people are trying to smear the name of George Floyd.  They're trying to blame his drug-use for a guy suffocating him on video.

You gotta realize that if George Floyd was a white woman under the same circumstances, he wouldn't be dead right now.  That community has been underserved and we've, as a society, not listened....and they've had enough.  It's not race all of a sudden.  It's always been race, you've just been unwilling to hear them.  ...and it sounds like you still are.  Yes, Chauvin is a bad cop.  But what about all the other cops standing there?  What about this entire system of police and their supporters trying to blame Floyd for his own death?

[ArtieChokePhin]

^^^

Might want to look into the Tony Timpa case as well.  Also might want to check the facts out there.  White people are killed more often by police than black people. 

Make it a race issue all you want.  The real issue is corrupt cops.