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[pondwater]

Speaking of the definitions of words:

- You're conflating "designed to inflict injury and/or death" with "designed to murder," which is not the same thing

If the injury or death isn't murder, what's the problem? Injury or death for hunting? Injury or death resulting from self defense? Injury or death from suicide? Injury or death from accidents? What's your point? Murder of children or anyone else for that matter, is different from all of the above. So what you cryin about?
 

- You're conflating "toxic" with "intoxicate," which are not synonyms in the contexts of recreational drugs (despite their similar spelling)

Hahaha, that's the best you got?  Alcohol is a poison that can be toxic. It is specifically produced and marketed to intoxicate the user.

[Dolphster]

My guns must be defective.  They just sit there and don't do anything. 

[pondwater]

My guns must be defective.  They just sit there and don't do anything. 

Yeah, go exchange them for new ones. Spider said that they're supposed to go out and kill people while you're sleeping or something 🙄🙄🤔🤔🤣🤣

[Phishfan]

Mine have been sitting too long too Dolphster, I need to get in some target practice but I'm not sure what the ammo market looks like now.

[pondwater]

Mine have been sitting too long too Dolphster, I need to get in some target practice but I'm not sure what the ammo market looks like now.

Ammo market if fucked, hell it's worse than the actual gun market. I was on gundeals the other day and 100 rounds of CCI 22lr was listed for $19.99 + 11.99 SH. Probably get it cheaper at Walmart or Academy if you can find it in stock. Shit is insane

[Dolphster]

Ammo is ridiculous for sure.  I work for a federal law enforcement agency and our training center where about a dozen different agencies train recruits, additional training for the rest of us, etc. has had such a hard time getting ammo (even with a government contract which puts us to the front of the line with manufacturers) are having such ammo shortages that a lot of these newbies are having to train with simulators rather than with the real deal. 

[Fau Teixeira]

non sequitur, I watched an interesting video about why there are shortages of things now, it mainly boils down to Just In Time supply chains and the lack of cargo containers being sent back to asia.

[Dolphster]

non sequitur, I watched an interesting video about why there are shortages of things now, it mainly boils down to Just In Time supply chains and the lack of cargo containers being sent back to asia.

Due to the Buy American Act, zero rounds of ammunition that the federal government buys are made in Asia.  Just In Time inventory and manufacturing is partly to blame, but the overwhelming reason for the shortage is due to lunatics who have been stockpiling personal ammo since the Obama administration because they are thoroughly convinced that the government is going to come take their guns and ammo.

[Fau Teixeira]

Due to the Buy American Act, zero rounds of ammunition that the federal government buys are made in Asia.  Just In Time inventory and manufacturing is partly to blame, but the overwhelming reason for the shortage is due to lunatics who have been stockpiling personal ammo since the Obama administration because they are thoroughly convinced that the government is going to come take their guns and ammo.

Don't forget that the NRA is above all else, a trade group for gun and ammo manufacturers. They're out to sell guns and ammo to make money. That was their goal all along.

[pondwater]

but the overwhelming reason for the shortage is due to lunatics who have been stockpiling personal ammo since the Obama administration because they are thoroughly convinced that the government is going to come take their guns and ammo.

I think Biden is going to break Obama's record as the worlds top selling gun and ammo salesman. If he would just shut the fuck up about trying to take away people's rights the situation would level out

[Dolphster]

Don't forget that the NRA is above all else, a trade group for gun and ammo manufacturers. They're out to sell guns and ammo to make money. That was their goal all along.

I don't disagree with you on that one.  I've never been a fan of the NRA and have found most of the things they do to be much more about being self serving than actually doing anything for the "rights" of gunowners. 

[Dolphster]

I think Biden is going to break Obama's record as the worlds top selling gun and ammo salesman. If he would just shut the fuck up about trying to take away people's rights the situation would level out

Yeah, that is fairly accurate.  I can see the current administration pushing through something similar to the 1994 Act and addressing "high capacity" magazines.  But there will never be any super serious anti gun legislation passed because the gun lobby is just too strong and way too many voters from both parties are gun owners.  And like everything else, it all comes down to votes for politicians. They care a lot more about getting re-elected than they do about their "causes".   They talk a big talk about gun legislation to appease their base constituency, but it also has the unintended effect of creating a rallying point which unifies the pro gun people.  I remember seeing advertisements during Obama's presidency for T shirts with his picture on it and it said, "Gun Industry Salesman Of The Year" which was pretty accurate. 

[pondwater]

Yeah, that is fairly accurate.  I can see the current administration pushing through something similar to the 1994 Act and addressing "high capacity" magazines.  But there will never be any super serious anti gun legislation passed because the gun lobby is just too strong and way too many voters from both parties are gun owners.  And like everything else, it all comes down to votes for politicians. They care a lot more about getting re-elected than they do about their "causes".   They talk a big talk about gun legislation to appease their base constituency, but it also has the unintended effect of creating a rallying point which unifies the pro gun people.  I remember seeing advertisements during Obama's presidency for T shirts with his picture on it and it said, "Gun Industry Salesman Of The Year" which was pretty accurate. 

There is nothing they can really do about magazines. "High capacity" magazines is a myth. 30 round magazines are standard capacity. If they want to ban magazines over 30 rounds. I would be willing to listen, but more than likely oppose it because it really doesn't fix anything.

The next problem you have with a magazine ban is that there are too many out there after Obama's 8 years. And I can't imagine that they wouldn't grandfather magazines already owned and produced. Statistically speaking, mass shootings and shootings with rifles in general is a small percentage of gun deaths. It's a red herring to scare the public into supporting more gun legislation. If they were really serious about gun deaths, they would fix places like Chicago, Baltimore, and Jackson across the country. That would drop the numbers down tremendously. It's just disingenuous lip service from the anti American liberals.

[Dave Gray]

  I remember seeing advertisements during Obama's presidency for T shirts with his picture on it and it said, "Gun Industry Salesman Of The Year" which was pretty accurate. 

That was all scare tactics by the gun lobby in order to sell guns.  Obama wasn't a threat to guns.  It was all bullshit.  They just wanted to get hillbillies to stockpile ammunition and guns as a commodity.

[Dolphster]

That was all scare tactics by the gun lobby in order to sell guns.  Obama wasn't a threat to guns.  It was all bullshit.  They just wanted to get hillbillies to stockpile ammunition and guns as a commodity.

Of course it was bullshit.  That was my point.  He was never going to do anything significant about guns.  Everything he said was rhetoric to appease his constituency. If you go back and watch them, Obama gave quite a few speeches in which he postured about the US "needing to do something about guns".   Although he never had any intention to actually do anything.   But people don't have much use for facts in our society.  The unintended effect of everything Obama said resulted in the hillbillies doing exactly what you said.  They perceived his words as a legit "threat" so they started stockpiling and they have never stopped.