SCOTUS Rules 9-0 Against NCAA

[EDGECRUSHER]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/06/21/shawne-alston-vs-ncaa-case-supreme-court-ruling/5237656001/

This is far from over but it sets precendent that NCAA can't bar students from accepting money and scholarships from universities based on current rules. It is so much more complex than that and we will hear more about it in the coming months but the gist of it is Students Happy, NCAA Unhappy.

This obviously has wide ranging impact across all sports.

[Spider-Dan]

[masterfins]

The NCAA has been a glutenous money grubbing whore for too many decades.  This is long overdue.

[Sunstroke]

The NCAA has been a glutenous money grubbing whore...

While the students have been gluten-free.

[EDGECRUSHER]

While the students have been gluten-free.

Well done.

[ArtieChokePhin]

This is going to change college football as we know it.   Schools are going to be classified as haves and have nots.  Sadly, Miami will be a have not. 

[CF DolFan]

This is going to change college football as we know it.   Schools are going to be classified as haves and have nots.  Sadly, Miami will be a have not. 

Miami's radio guys were talking about that. Teams like Clemson, Alabama, Ohio, and Florida will have a much easier time recruiting than they already do while mid tier teams like Miami will fall further down the line.

[Spider-Dan]

I, for one, fear the prospect of a nightmarish hellscape in which there are some college football programs with a sizable recruiting and resource advantage over many others, which they parlay into perennial contention (in a sport where dozens of teams finish with the same record and postseason contention is entirely subjective).

Such a dystopia is hard to even imagine, yet the mere possibility is still terrifying.  Under no circumstances can such a perversion of sport be allowed to become reality.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I, for one, fear the prospect of a nightmarish hellscape in which there are some college football programs with a sizable recruiting and resource advantage over many others, which they parlay into perennial contention (in a sport where dozens of teams finish with the same record and postseason contention is entirely subjective).

Such a dystopia is hard to even imagine, yet the mere possibility is still terrifying.  Under no circumstances can such a perversion of sport be allowed to become reality.

Don't even speak of such an unfathomable hellscape where one football team has won 6 of the past 12 national championships!

[EDGECRUSHER]

This won't turn college sports into MLB where you can spend whatever you want. There will undoubtedly still be some type of salary cap and scholarship cap for players, they just can't ruin a kid's life anymore for accepting a ham sandwich by an assistant coach.

They also can't pocket 100% of the profits from jersey and videogame sales using the student's likeness. The South Park episode on this really nailed it.

[ArtieChokePhin]

This won't turn college sports into MLB where you can spend whatever you want. There will undoubtedly still be some type of salary cap and scholarship cap for players, they just can't ruin a kid's life anymore for accepting a ham sandwich by an assistant coach.

They also can't pocket 100% of the profits from jersey and videogame sales using the student's likeness. The South Park episode on this really nailed it.

Oh yes it will.  Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, USC, Oregon, Texas and Texas A&M have deep pockets and will not hesitate to use it.   

What they need to do is create more leagues like the XFL/AAF.  Kids who value football and have a legit shot at making it in the NFL need to go play there and earn $90k a year.  Let college football be a true amateur sport.

[Spider-Dan]

Look to college baseball and hockey - coincidentally(?), two sports with a MUCH higher percentage of white American players.

Baseball and hockey have well-developed minor-league systems that allow players to start making money as a pro from age 18 (and the best young players to make SIGNIFICANT money).  As I understand it, players who choose to play college baseball commit to 4 years before they may be drafted; i.e. they are going to college for the education.

Football and basketball stand in sharp contrast.  I leave it to the reader as to whether the reasons for those differences in structure are the same reasons why fighting is deemed a necessary and protected part of the sport in baseball and hockey, yet penalized in the harshest terms for football and basketball.

[Phishfan]

Oh yes it will.  Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, USC, Oregon, Texas and Texas A&M have deep pockets and will not hesitate to use it.   

What they need to do is create more leagues like the XFL/AAF.  Kids who value football and have a legit shot at making it in the NFL need to go play there and earn $90k a year.  Let college football be a true amateur sport.

Have you read up on the decision? Student athletes will still not be receiving straight pay for play. The ruling just frees up additional educational related money such as scholarships to grad school,  tutors, music instruments, etc. This isn't the major victory for pay the players enthusiasts.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Look to college baseball and hockey - coincidentally(?), two sports with a MUCH higher percentage of white American players.

Baseball and hockey have well-developed minor-league systems that allow players to start making money as a pro from age 18 (and the best young players to make SIGNIFICANT money).  As I understand it, players who choose to play college baseball commit to 4 years before they may be drafted; i.e. they are going to college for the education.

Football and basketball stand in sharp contrast.  I leave it to the reader as to whether the reasons for those differences in structure are the same reasons why fighting is deemed a necessary and protected part of the sport in baseball and hockey, yet penalized in the harshest terms for football and basketball.

To me, the difference is in the sports. In College, you are much more advanced and prepared for the pros in baseketball and football. Baseball players spend years in the minors, sometimes not debuting until their late 20s. Hockey has a shorter learning curve, some kids go straight to the NHL from high school or college if they are prodigies but in general they stay in the minors for a few years too.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Have you read up on the decision? Student athletes will still not be receiving straight pay for play. The ruling just frees up additional educational related money such as scholarships to grad school,  tutors, music instruments, etc. This isn't the major victory for pay the players enthusiasts.

But it also frees up athletes to make money off their likeness, something the NCAA would not allow.