CDC advisory group says 'likely link' between COVID vaccines& heart inflamation

[CF DolFan]

I bring this to your attention because although I do not know anyone who has died of Covid ... I do know two people who died unexpectedly within 1 month of receiving the vaccine. In unrelated instances I lost two friends from high school last week who were both found unresponsive in their homes. They were both found to have a virus that attacked their heart. One lived in South Carolina and was pretty conservative while the other lived in NY City, was a professional dancer and model who is about as liberal as anyone can be. She just did a summer wardrobe segment on the Wendy Williams show and was in about as good a shape as you can be at 49. This is Jenny.
Officially no one is pointing to the vaccine but one has to wonder. I get that the vaccine is safe for most people, although not nearly as safe as the flu shot, but the problem is you just don't know until you get it.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9718091/CDC-advisory-group-says-likely-link-COVID-19-vaccines-rare-heart-inflammation.html
The group of doctors said the risk of myocarditis or pericarditis following vaccination with the mRNA-based shots in adolescents and young adults is notably higher after the second dose and in males. I got pericarditis after having Covid so I'm guessing the vaccines would probably affect me me in a similar way.

CDC advisory group says there is a 'likely link' between COVID-19 vaccines and rare heart inflammation in young adults after nearly 500 reported cases
The CDC's COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Technical Work Group said Wednesday that there is a 'likely link' between rare heart inflammation and vaccines
The group noted vaccination with the Pfizer and Moderna shots in adolescents and young adults is notably higher after the second dose and in males
So far, 484 cases have been reported out of 90.6 million doses, which means the risk occurs in 0.000534% of young adults
Both Pfizer and Moderna say they have not identified an association with the heart inflammation cases and their vaccines

[ArtieChokePhin]

And this is why no one in my family is getting a vaccine.

[Spider-Dan]

I bring this to your attention because although I do not know anyone who has died of Covid ... I do know two people who died unexpectedly within 1 month of receiving the vaccine.

CF, how many Americans do you believe have really died from COVID-19 to date?
And how many do you believe have died from a vaccine? (edit: to clarify, a COVID-19 vaccine)
Be brutally honest.  You don't have to give an exact number, just your best ballpark guess.

[masterfins]

How many people have died in a car accident within a month of getting the Covid-19 vaccine?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

in 0.000534% of young adults

There are three zeros after that decimal point.  And that is incidents of inflammation not incidents of death.  It is not surprising that some people would have side effects given how seriously many survivors of the virus have long term complications.  

Meanwhile almost 4 million people have died of Covid, and tens of millions of survivors are suffering from long term serious complications.

[Dolphster]

Not saying I'm proud of this, but I just looked at the girl and didn't read anything.

[pondwater]

Cheer up guys, none of it matters. Get your vaccine or don't. We're all just cosmic dust soon to be gone anyhow. When it happens, you won't even know you're gone.

[Spider-Dan]

Notwithstanding my previous questions, I read the article and as best I can tell, there have been zero deaths reported as part of this study.  Given the existing conservative position on COVID - namely, if you don't die from COVID then it was overhyped and not a big deal - I am unsure as to why we would even discuss people who are not dead.  Or to put it another way:

I got pericarditis after having Covid so I'm guessing the vaccines would probably affect me me in a similar way.

So you're saying there's a chance that the symptoms from the vaccine might be similar to... the symptoms you experienced after recovering from being hospitalized with COVID.  And therefore, this is (somehow?) evidence AGAINST getting the vaccine that has a ~100% chance of preventing a person from being hospitalized with COVID.  That, um, doesn't make sense.

Lastly, as a COVID survivor who has been vaccinated, I notice that this study does not seem to indicate the number of COVID survivors among the vaccinated subjects.  This strikes me as an incredibly important detail, as a vaccinated COVID survivor might be experiencing heart problems from the vaccine... or they might be experiencing long-term side effects of COVID (one of which is, ahem, heart problems).  They might even be experiencing long-term COVID side effects that would have been prevented if they had been vaccinated before being exposed to COVID.

I think maybe you should spend less time on the Daily Mail website.  It seems like you are posting articles from there rather frequently these days.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I know of two people who died as a result of getting the vax.  Two weeks after getting the second dose. they celebrated by going out to their favorite restaurant, this was the first time they ate in a restaurant in over a year.  On the way home they were killed by a drunk driver.  Had they not gotten the vax they would have ordered thru urber eats.  Also this was the first time the driver had drank at a bar in over a year, having spent the past year drinking at home due to the pandemic.

So yes, getting the vax can lead to death.

[dolphins4life]

I have chest pains fairly often usually right after eating.  Reading this just made me anxious

[Tenshot13]

I have chest pains fairly often usually right after eating.  Reading this just made me anxious

Heart burn made worse by stressing and anxiety.  Used to happen to me.

[CF DolFan]

OK ... just to add to my personal stats. The Super for this project just returned from his nephews funeral. He was relatively healthy and had a massive heart attack within one week of getting his second shot. For the purpose of this discussion I will reveal the super is both black and votes very liberal but is absolutely convinced the vaccine killed his nephew. As well ... one of his equipment operators had been in the hospital with blood clots and leg swelling after getting his second shot.  No one knew why the guy was out because of hippa but he explained everything to people upon his return.

We had been debating getting vaccinated as we are scheduled for a cruise in September but I'm almost certain that won't be happening.

'The government is not being transparent about the risks': Inventor of MRNA vaccines says people should not be forced to take experimental COVID vaccines because risks aren't known and under 18s and those who’ve had virus shouldn’t take it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9719891/Inventor-mRNA-vaccines-says-young-adults-teens-not-forced-COVID-vaccine.html

[Tenshot13]

I'm glad I got the J&J