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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2021, 07:22:31 pm »

There is another solution that many businesses could use to elevate their labor shortage without raising wages……let their employees work more hours.

I know multiple people who have 2 part time jobs, both of which cap their hours at 25 or 30 hours to avoid having to give them full time benefits.

 I even know one cashier who was fired for revealing this fact to a customer.  Along with multiple help wanted signs, the store has a sign, “Please bare [sic] with us do [sic] to the Covid unemployment benefits nobody wants to work”  One customer commented to her, “I guess you are getting a lot of overtime” And she responded, “I wish, they cap my hours at 30 per week to avoid paying for healthcare, I would love to work more hours, I fell behind on my bills when my hours were cut at the height of the pandemic “  The customer then went to the manager and screamed at him that rather than having such an obnoxious and false sign he should let his employees who do want to work, work more hours”. She was fired “For inappropriate comments to a customer, specifically complaining about work conditions while on the clock”  So now this shorthanded store is even more shorthanded.  The next day she got a job that pays $2 dollars an hour more, but also caps her hours at 30 because they don’t want to provide benefits.  She has a second job that caps her hours at 25.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2021, 12:03:18 am »

i saw mcdonalds offering 9.50 / hr to 11/hr near me .. next door wawa was offering 13-14 / hr to start .. who do you think people are going to pick?

Obviously Wawa, but when they are fully staffed, people will go to Mickey Ds. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2021, 12:16:12 am »

Obviously Wawa, but when they are fully staffed, people will go to Mickey Ds. 
Then you're playing a game of chicken, hoping that your competitors will not raise their own rates before you do.  If McD's wants to be the absolute last business to fill their open positions, they will get what they deserve: the least desirable employees who were already rejected by everyone else.

This is an extremely simple and straightforward supply & demand experiment.  You would think that self-avowed captialists would understand how this works!

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2021, 09:57:15 am »

Then you're playing a game of chicken, hoping that your competitors will not raise their own rates before you do.  If McD's wants to be the absolute last business to fill their open positions, they will get what they deserve: the least desirable employees who were already rejected by everyone else.

This is an extremely simple and straightforward supply & demand experiment.  You would think that self-avowed captialists would understand how this works!
They do understand, that's why you'll see automation taking over for many of these jobs in the future. I'd rather order from a kiosk anyhow, won't have to deal with these under 40 year old mentally fucked up people with shitty entitled attitudes.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2021, 10:13:49 am »

i saw mcdonalds offering 9.50 / hr to 11/hr near me .. next door wawa was offering 13-14 / hr to start .. who do you think people are going to pick?
Target, Buc-ee's and others are offering $15 and yet they still have help wanted signs posted. It isn't about the money as much as how people want to get it. There is a portion of society that is perfectly happy to do as little as possible to survive. I get that as I'm even related to some. What I don't get is other people feeling like they need to take my money to support those same people.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2021, 10:15:37 am »

They do understand, that's why you'll see automation taking over for many of these jobs in the future. I'd rather order from a kiosk anyhow, won't have to deal with these under 40 year old mentally fucked up people with shitty entitled attitudes.
I have a lot of friends complaining about self service lines in stores but I swear things seem to run so much smoother for me when I use them.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2021, 12:42:39 pm »

i'm not a huge fan of the self-serve lines unless i have only 2 or 3 items in which case .. no big deal
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2021, 12:54:55 pm »

self serve is the way to go, in and out quick.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2021, 01:03:31 pm »

We're not really all that interested in going out to eat.  We pick-up sometimes.  I think it's just that it's hard with kids to make that an enjoyable experience.  And if someone is watching my kids, I probably wanna do something more substantial with the time.

But I always do self-checkout whenever I can.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2021, 01:37:44 pm »

i'm not a huge fan of the self-serve lines unless i have only 2 or 3 items in which case .. no big deal

Most of the places I shop, encourage smaller quantities to use self-serve and large orders to use a cashier.  Sometimes they do this explicitly, sometimes by having limited room in selfcheck
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2021, 08:12:46 pm »

Why are we still hearing about this "no one wants to work" stuff in Florida?  Your governor ended the extra unemployment money 2 weeks ago, and FL already has one of the most difficult-to-navigate unemployment systems in the nation; one that, according to DeSantis, was designed with "pointless roadblocks" to "lead to the least number of claims being paid out."

So how long are we going to be blaming workers for a labor shortage... the rest of the summer?  The rest of the year?
At what point is it on management to offer more money?

I live in Upstate NY where the extra $300 is still being paid until September, and where minimum wage is $12.50/hr ($13.50 if you work at a chain fast food restaurant), so I'm speaking from that perspective.  The Dunkin Donuts next to my office is offering $16.00/hr. to start and can't fill positions.  They used to be open until 10 p.m., but now close at 3 p.m. because they can't find workers.  And they aren't closing early because of lack of customers; when I would leave work at 4 or 5 pm there would be 10 cars in the drive thru in the afternoon to get their iced coffees.
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2021, 01:08:20 pm »

And they aren't closing early because of lack of customers; when I would leave work at 4 or 5 pm there would be 10 cars in the drive thru in the afternoon to get their iced coffees.

Who in the world drinks iced coffee at 5 pm??   At 5 pm, I want a bourbon on the rocks or straight up depending on my mood and to just kick back and reflect on the day.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2021, 01:37:21 pm »

Who in the world drinks iced coffee at 5 pm??   

I do...pretty much every single day.

You really start hitting the hard stuff around 5:00?

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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2021, 03:00:03 pm »

My store is having trouble finding people which has upped my weekend hours.  This is confusing though because grocery store workers do not get unemployment
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2021, 03:16:18 pm »

I do...pretty much every single day.

You really start hitting the hard stuff around 5:00?

It's 5 o'clock somewhere ain't it?   My point is, coffee is a day starting drink for me, not a day ending drink.
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