MIA's 2022 1st round draft pick and the PHI trade

[Spider-Dan]

Here's the way I see it right now.

Best outcome:
- MIA finishes with a pick later than 12th AND SF finishes with a pick in the top 10

Great outcome:
- MIA finishes with a pick later than 12th AND SF finishes with a pick earlier than MIA's

Good outcome:
- SF finishes with any pick earlier than MIA's
- MIA finishes with a pick later than 12th AND SF finishes with a pick earlier than 20th

Mediocre outcome:
- MIA finishes with a pick between 6th-12th

Bad outcome:
- MIA finishes with a pick in the top 5

Nightmare outcome:
- MIA finishes with a pick in the top 5 and SF finishes with a pick later than 20th

Keep in mind that for all the outcomes worse than "good," it is necessarily implied that SF finishes with a later pick than MIA.  Any outcome in which SF's pick is better than MIA's is by definition a good one.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If you are looking at this from a purely draft perspective the best case scenario is for SF to draft 1st and Mia to draft 2nd.  That way MIA has the 1st and 34th pick.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Correct me if I am wrong, but through all the draft trades we made from going to 3 to 12 to 6, isn't all we got was the Niners 2023 1st rounder? That's not even counting the possibility that we could end up with a much worse pick in 2022 as well.

[dolphins4life]

What difference does it make anyway?

[CF DolFan]

What difference does it make anyway?

Bingo. If we ever hit on a stud we trade them for more picks of mediocre players. You have to be trying to screw up as bad as we have.

[hordman]

What difference does it make anyway?

^^^^ THIS

[Spider-Dan]

Correct me if I am wrong, but through all the draft trades we made from going to 3 to 12 to 6, isn't all we got was the Niners 2023 1st rounder?

MIA currently has SF's 1st rounders in 2022 and 2023.
PHI has MIA's 1st rounder in 2022.

[Spider-Dan]

What difference does it make anyway?

Earlier picks are better than later picks.

Even if you believe the current front office would just screw them up anyway, it's not out of the question that they could be replaced before the 2022 draft.

[dolphins4life]

Earlier picks are better than later picks.

Even if you believe the current front office would just screw them up anyway, it's not out of the question that they could be replaced before the 2022 draft.

Marino was a first round pick.  Look where that got us.  Brady was a sixth rounder.  Enough said

[EDGECRUSHER]

MIA currently has SF's 1st rounders in 2022 and 2023.
PHI has MIA's 1st rounder in 2022.

Yes, but we had to give up a 2022 1st rounder to move back up to 6 so it's not like we have an extra 1st rounder in 2022 thanks to San Fran. So when it's all said and done, we moved back from 3 to 6 and only got a 2023 1st rounder which will probably be in the 20's if Lance pans out.

That's a pathetic haul to move back 3 spots and miss out on Chase and Pitts. That isn't even factoring in how our pick this season might be Top 10 in a Twilight Zone reversal of what we did to the Texans last year.

[Spider-Dan]

Marino was a first round pick.  Look where that got us.  Brady was a sixth rounder.  Enough said

If you really believe what you are saying, MIA should immediately trade away all their 1st-5th round picks so they can stockpile 6th and 7th rounders.
Because draft position doesn't matter!

[Spider-Dan]

That's a pathetic haul to move back 3 spots and miss out on Chase and Pitts.

If MIA had Pitts or Chase instead of Gesicki or Waddle, do you think they would be meaningfully better right now?

I don't think there has been a significant difference between Pitts and Gesicki so far, and I doubt Chase would have caught 5 TDs from Jacoby Brissett.

[EDGECRUSHER]

If MIA had Pitts or Chase instead of Gesicki or Waddle, do you think they would be meaningfully better right now?

Nah, but the fact remains that was still a terrible haul to move back and he got way too cute with his trades. Bad trade the day it happened and it looks worse and worse as time goes by and I like Waddle, not really about him, just the weak haul.

[Spider-Dan]

I think the primary benefit of that trade was as insurance.
If MIA is not happy with Tua's progress by 2023, they'll have 2 firsts to move up and get a new QB.

[dolphins4life]

If you really believe what you are saying, MIA should immediately trade away all their 1st-5th round picks so they can stockpile 6th and 7th rounders.
Because draft position doesn't matter!

At this point, nothing matters anymore.  Miami will always stink