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« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2022, 09:10:03 am »

That's not it either, for several reasons:

1) head-to-head does not matter for draft position* (this was extensively researched during Suck For Luck and Tank For Tua)
2) there are no playoff tiebreakers for teams in different conferences (for obvious reasons)

*As an example: MIA swept BUF in 2011, both teams finished 6-10, but in the 2012 draft, MIA picked 8th (Tannehill) while BUF picked 10th (Stephon Gilmore).

That is not true.  Head to head is the second tiebreaker for the NFL draft.  Strength of schedule is the first one.  In your example what happened was it never got to the second tiebreaker.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-draft-tiebreakers/

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« Reply #76 on: January 27, 2022, 09:43:21 am »

That's not it either, for several reasons:

1) head-to-head does not matter for draft position* (this was extensively researched during Suck For Luck and Tank For Tua)
2) there are no playoff tiebreakers for teams in different conferences (for obvious reasons)

*As an example: MIA swept BUF in 2011, both teams finished 6-10, but in the 2012 draft, MIA picked 8th (Tannehill) while BUF picked 10th (Stephon Gilmore).

Sorry, I didn't explain how the tiebreakers work for the draft.   Strength of schedule is the first tiebreaker in any case, followed by head to head competition.   After that, it gets dicey.   For non conference teams, I believe the third tiebreaker is record against common opponents, followed by strength of victory.
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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2022, 09:44:36 pm »

The pick is 29th.
While SF's pick would have been after CIN's had they both lost today, the upset in the AFCCG means that 10-7 SF's pick is before 12-5 KC's.
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« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2022, 08:40:09 am »

The pick is 29th.
While SF's pick would have been after CIN's had they both lost today, the upset in the AFCCG means that 10-7 SF's pick is before 12-5 KC's.

If we can't get someone we really want at 29, I would just dangle it for some 2023 picks in case Tua doesn't work out. The big holes we have can be filled with free agency and good coaching, IMO. I don't think whoever we take at 29th is going to win MVP, even if they can be a very good player.
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« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2022, 09:08:49 am »

Look on the bright side, with a pick that late it's almost a guarantee we take a RB.
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« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2022, 09:13:07 am »

Look on the bright side, with a pick that late it's almost a guarantee we take a RB.

Certainly won't be drafting a Tackle again. Kinda set at CB unless we trade Xavier, which I am not ruling out. Can always find guys to contribute at 29 but if there is a really good RB available, then maybe. 5 years of control is nice too because after 5 years of being beat up, you don't want to dish out the big contract. Sucks for them but that's just how it is.
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« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2022, 08:12:54 pm »

Look on the bright side, with a pick that late it's almost a guarantee we take a RB.

That or a somewhat decent WR.
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« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2022, 12:55:02 am »

That or a somewhat decent WR.

If we were still at 15, or at least somewhere before pick 20, I think we would have been a good chance. But at pick 29 I think it's likely the four best WRs will all be gone.

It's hard to have any real confidence with this pick so far down in the first round - that list in the other thread of pick 29 over the last 12 years isn't encouraging reading.
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« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2022, 08:35:56 am »

If we were still at 15, or at least somewhere before pick 20, I think we would have been a good chance. But at pick 29 I think it's likely the four best WRs will all be gone.

It's hard to have any real confidence with this pick so far down in the first round - that list in the other thread of pick 29 over the last 12 years isn't encouraging reading.

We must all light a candle or make ritualistic sacrifices that Trey Lance is a bust and the Niners pick next year will be Top 10.
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« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2022, 11:34:47 pm »

If we were still at 15, or at least somewhere before pick 20, I think we would have been a good chance. But at pick 29 I think it's likely the four best WRs will all be gone.

Devin Lloyd would also have been a handy pick, a LB who could end our continued misery of being torched by opposition TEs...

Unfortunately he's widely expected to be snapped up... by Philadelphia with what would have been our pick at 15.  Roll Eyes Cry
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« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2022, 11:39:01 pm »

We must all light a candle or make ritualistic sacrifices that Trey Lance is a bust and the Niners pick next year will be Top 10.

Gotta find out what the Bengals have been doing the last three weeks... they seemed to have a charmed existence through all of the playoffs.  Wink Tongue
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