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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2022, 12:22:11 pm »

Tenshot, yup.  But can you make the picture a bit smaller.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2022, 03:06:08 pm »

I wouldn't call him a troll.  But a lot of his posts are way out in left field and make no sense.

My posts make plenty of sense.  You people never rebut them.  You just throw rhetoric.

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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2022, 07:16:53 am »

My posts make plenty of sense.  

This statement right here qualifies for the TDMMC Pinocchio Award.
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2022, 12:49:21 pm »

This statement right here qualifies for the TDMMC Pinocchio Award.

More rhetoric
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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2022, 02:30:31 pm »

JJ's last 3 years:
9-7 (0-1 playoffs)
10-6 (1-1 playoffs)
9-7 (1-1 playoffs)

Wanny's first 3 years:
11-5 (division champ, 1-1 playoffs)
11-5 (0-1 playoffs)
9-7 (no playoffs)

Looks like he made the team better, not worse.

Overall record:
JJ- 36-28 (.563), 2-3 playoffs, no division title
Wanny- 42-31 (.575), 1-3 playoffs, 1 division title

Let us also note that when Wanny lost six games in a row to open the season (and 8 of 9), he was fired midseason, unlike Flores who finished the season after a 7-game losing streak.

Wanny had a far more talented team than any of JJs teams in 2002 and 2003 and missed the playoffs both years.  Not sure how much of that was his fault, but people tend to blame the coach.  They had Ricky Williams both of those years.  Many people blamed him for overworking Williams in 2003   
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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2022, 02:40:42 pm »

JJ's last 3 years:
9-7 (0-1 playoffs)
10-6 (1-1 playoffs)
9-7 (1-1 playoffs)

Wanny's first 3 years:
11-5 (division champ, 1-1 playoffs)
11-5 (0-1 playoffs)
9-7 (no playoffs)

Looks like he made the team better, not worse.

Overall record:
JJ- 36-28 (.563), 2-3 playoffs, no division title
Wanny- 42-31 (.575), 1-3 playoffs, 1 division title

Let us also note that when Wanny lost six games in a row to open the season (and 8 of 9), he was fired midseason, unlike Flores who finished the season after a 7-game losing streak.

Wanny had a far more talented team than any of JJs teams in 2002 and 2003 and missed the playoffs both years.  Not sure how much of that was his fault, but people tend to blame the coach.  They had Ricky Williams both of those years.  Many people blamed him for overworking Williams in 2003   

JJ inherited a team that was a mess after Shula left.  They were an underachieving bunch full of locker room cancers, and they were over the salary cap with four of their top players becoming free agents (all four left).   He slowly built that team up to where it could sustain itself for a little while, especially on defense.

Wanny inherited a team that had top talent at some positions and ran it into the ground.   His results went downhill every year.   He overworked Ricky Williams and had a love fest with Jay Fiedler rather than draft capable receivers and find a top notch QB.   He turned down Drew Brees to bring in Jamar Fletcher when he already had two lock down corners on his roster.   Then he drafted Eddie Moore over Anquan Bolden.   That pretty much says it all.
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2022, 07:24:43 pm »

JJ inherited a team that was a mess after Shula left.  They were an underachieving bunch full of locker room cancers, and they were over the salary cap with four of their top players becoming free agents (all four left).   He slowly built that team up to where it could sustain itself for a little while, especially on defense.

Wanny inherited a team that had top talent at some positions and ran it into the ground.   His results went downhill every year.   He overworked Ricky Williams and had a love fest with Jay Fiedler rather than draft capable receivers and find a top notch QB.   He turned down Drew Brees to bring in Jamar Fletcher when he already had two lock down corners on his roster.   Then he drafted Eddie Moore over Anquan Bolden.   That pretty much says it all.

Agree.  And JJ was kind of saddled with an aged Dan Marino.  If Marino wasn't such a legend in Miami I'd bet JJ would have traded him and drafted a young QB.
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2022, 07:45:45 pm »

Agree.  And JJ was kind of saddled with an aged Dan Marino.  If Marino wasn't such a legend in Miami I'd bet JJ would have traded him and drafted a young QB.

JJ wanted to do exactly that, but Huizenga wouldn't let him as the fallout from the fan base would've been too much to overcome.
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