McDaniel Says He Will Call His Own Plays

[Tenshot13]

According to ESPNs Marcel Louis-Jacques Mike McDaniel called plays last year for the 49ers

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/spovo8/according_to_espns_marcel_louisjacques_mike/

Shanahan would relay the calls to the QB and have final veto.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Somehow you're using team records as a measure of talent but not of coaching.  A team record of 9-8 could just as easily indicate a team bereft of talent that was coached up as it could a team that could've played better because of its talent but was undermined by its coaching.  How are you using the team's record to make the determination of which of those possibilities was occurring?

Because I saw how Flores coached. All of his mistakes with challenges, on 4th downs, on not standing up for his QB while the rumors were swirling, on starting 1-7. I don't think there are any Dolphins fans who think Flores did anything but a terrible job coaching this team. Thus, I put on my Detective's Hat and deduce that our 9-8 record was in spite of him, not because we were really a 6 win team and he got the best out of us.

Oh, and he played guys on the line out of position for the first few weeks, maybe all year since Hunt is a better RT than Jesse Davis. Almost everything he did was wrong.

[Dolfanalyst]

Because I saw how Flores coached. All of his mistakes with challenges, on 4th downs, on not standing up for his QB while the rumors were swirling, on starting 1-7. I don't think there are any Dolphins fans who think Flores did anything but a terrible job coaching this team. Thus, I put on my Detective's Hat and deduce that our 9-8 record was in spite of him, not because we were really a 6 win team and he got the best out of us.

Oh, and he played guys on the line out of position for the first few weeks, maybe all year since Hunt is a better RT than Jesse Davis. Almost everything he did was wrong.

So if the team was undermined by its coaching and its "true" record was better than 9-8 (let's say 11-6 or thereabouts), how do you explain how the players were so different from the teams that played at that level (11-6) in terms of their recognition for the NFL all-pro team -- i.e., not a single player's receiving a single vote?

I mean if your talent is similar to that of teams that finish 11-6 or thereabouts, and your team performance is saddled by poor coaching, surely the all-pro voters would recognize the talent involved to the tune of giving just a single player a single vote?  Or did the coaching suppress the individual performance of every single player on the roster?

[EDGECRUSHER]

I don't know why it's hard to think that terrible coaching would suppress the talent of people on the roster. Our OCs and O-Line coaches were terrible, so it is reasonable to say they suppressed the talent. Solomon was a starter last year and this year he didn't see the field. Jackson was maybe the worst O-Line guy in the league and Liam was shit too. That doesn't make a lot of sense that all 3 guys lost the ability to play football.

Also, I really don't care about the All Pro team. Waddle was great for us this year and didn't make it. Howard came around in the 2nd half. Holland had a great rookie year as did Phillips. Whole team was shit the first half which hurt their numbers.

If fortune shines upon us in 2022 with a 12 win season without many on field personnel changes, I think we can credit new coaching. If we suck again, then we just suck.

[Dolfanalyst]

I don't know why it's hard to think that terrible coaching would suppress the talent of people on the roster. Our OCs and O-Line coaches were terrible, so it is reasonable to say they suppressed the talent. Solomon was a starter last year and this year he didn't see the field. Jackson was maybe the worst O-Line guy in the league and Liam was shit too. That doesn't make a lot of sense that all 3 guys lost the ability to play football.

Also, I really don't care about the All Pro team. Waddle was great for us this year and didn't make it. Howard came around in the 2nd half. Holland had a great rookie year as did Phillips. Whole team was shit the first half which hurt their numbers.

If fortune shines upon us in 2022 with a 12 win season without many on field personnel changes, I think we can credit new coaching. If we suck again, then we just suck.

But how do you get a team with such suppression of talent to finish 9-8 and have not a single player be recognized as worthy of a single all-pro team vote?  I mean if the talent is overcoming its suppression by the coaching to the tune of a 9-8 record, why aren't any players being recognized for their talent?

And it's not whether any players made the all-pro team -- it's that there wasn't a single player who received a single vote for the all-pro team!  The only other teams in the league that fit that bill were the Lions, which finished 3-13-1, and the Giants, which finished 4-13.

https://www.mlive.com/lions/2022/01/lions-among-3-teams-shut-out-of-all-pro-voting-6-former-players-jettisoned-by-quinntricia-earned-votes.html

[pondwater]

So if the team was undermined by its coaching and its "true" record was better than 9-8 (let's say 11-6 or thereabouts), how do you explain how the players were so different from the teams that played at that level (11-6) in terms of their recognition for the NFL all-pro team -- i.e., not a single player's receiving a single vote?

I mean if your talent is similar to that of teams that finish 11-6 or thereabouts, and your team performance is saddled by poor coaching, surely the all-pro voters would recognize the talent involved to the tune of giving just a single player a single vote?  Or did the coaching suppress the individual performance of every single player on the roster?

NFL all-pro team isn't really relevant. You're over stating it's importance and if that's your only argument I disagree. It's a team sport. There have been plenty of instances where an offense or defense has succeeded with upper mid level talent and no names. You don't need all-pro talent, but you do need competent coaching. I'll take  upper mid level talent with great coaching over a few all-pros and garbage coaching.

[Dolfanalyst]

NFL all-pro team isn't really relevant. You're over stating it's importance and if that's your only argument I disagree. It's a team sport. There have been plenty of instances where an offense or defense has succeeded with upper mid level talent and no names. You don't need all-pro talent, but you do need competent coaching. I'll take  upper mid level talent with great coaching over a few all-pros and garbage coaching.

It's not the all-pro team, per se -- it's whether any players received any votes for the all-pro team, thus being recognized as having at least some degree of distinctive talent.  Again the only other teams in the league to get zero all-pro team votes for any player were the Lions (3-13-1) and the Giants (4-13).  It's not something associated with having sufficient talent for winning.

[pondwater]

It's not the all-pro team, per se -- it's whether any players received any votes for the all-pro team, thus being recognized as having at least some degree of distinctive talent.  Again the only other teams in the league to get zero all-pro team votes for any player were the Lions (3-13-1) and the Giants (4-13).  It's not something associated with having sufficient talent for winning.

Yeah well last I remember, Flores didn't pull no all-pro awards with his talent level either. I'm saying the players talents were higher than the coaches.