"Good guy with a gun" kills 9-year-old girl

[Spider-Dan]

9-year-old girl struck by bullet in truck dies, suspect says he was chasing robber

A 9-year-old girl died after a man who was held up at a Houston ATM fired at her family's pickup truck while attempting to shoot the robbery suspect, police said.

The suspect in the shooting, identified by police as Tony Earls, 41, was making a transaction at a drive-thru ATM at 2900 Woodridge Dr. in southeastern Houston with his wife Monday shortly before 10 p.m. when he was robbed at gunpoint, according to police.

"Earls first shot at the robbery suspect, who was fleeing on foot, and then at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had gotten into," police said.

One of those rounds struck the back window of the pickup truck, which was occupied by a family of five that was not involved in the robbery, police said. A 9-year-old girl in the rear passenger seat was struck during the shooting, police said.
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The girl, who has not been publicly identified by authorities, was transported to Memorial Hermann Hospital in critical condition. She was pronounced dead Tuesday afternoon, police said.

No one else was harmed in the incident, police said. It's not clear whether the robbery suspect returned fire, according to police.

Earls was arrested and charged with aggravated assault-serious bodily injury, police said Tuesday. The complaint alleged that he "recklessly" caused serious bodily injury "by shooting at an occupied motor vehicle with a deadly weapon."

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Clearly, the problem here is that the young girl was not herself armed.  If she was, she could have used her Second Amendment rights to defend herself from the Good Guy With A Gun that killed her.

In related news:

Fleeing a shooter, juvenile is shot by man at gas station in Little Woods, police say

A group of children fleeing from a shooter in Little Woods escaped to a gas station, where an elderly man shot at them because he thought they were shooting at him, police said.

Police responded to the aggravated battery by shooting at around 9:22 p.m. Tuesday. A group of juveniles were walking in the 7000 block of Crowder Boulevard when an unknown suspect started shooting at them, police said.

The children fled to a nearby gas station, where they startled an elderly man. He thought the group of juveniles was shooting at him, so he shot his gun at them.

The man -- who police described as elderly but did not specify his age -- struck one juvenile in the arm. Emergency Medical Services took the child to a hospital. Police did not release the victim's gender or current condition.

[pondwater]

Who cares? Is this place now a liberal news outlet?

In other news, Jackson MS sets new record. 2021 will end as the deadliest in Jackson history with 153 killings, eclipsing 2020′s previous record of 128 homicides. The homicide rate for Jackson is 99.5 per 100,000 residents, a rate that blazes past Memphis, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Democratic leadership in aforementioned cities have no answers to curb the violence.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Who cares? Is this place now a liberal news outlet?

In other news, Jackson MS sets new record. 2021 will end as the deadliest in Jackson history with 153 killings, eclipsing 2020′s previous record of 128 homicides. The homicide rate for Jackson is 99.5 per 100,000 residents, a rate that blazes past Memphis, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Democratic leadership in aforementioned cities have no answers to curb the violence.

I wouldn't mind living in some southern cities, but the ones you have listed here are all shitholes.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Who cares? Is this place now a liberal news outlet?

In other news, Jackson MS sets new record. 2021 will end as the deadliest in Jackson history with 153 killings, eclipsing 2020′s previous record of 128 homicides. The homicide rate for Jackson is 99.5 per 100,000 residents, a rate that blazes past Memphis, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Democratic leadership in aforementioned cities have no answers to curb the violence.

What percentage of those killings involved guns? 

Your counter-point affirms the problem is guns.

[pondwater]

What percentage of those killings involved guns? 

Your counter-point affirms the problem is guns.

My counter-point affirms that problem is democrat run cities and criminals with guns that live in those cities.

[Spider-Dan]

Is this place now a liberal news outlet?

Was it the series of linked Daily Mail articles that gave it away?

In other news, Jackson MS sets new record. 2021 will end as the deadliest in Jackson history with 153 killings, eclipsing 2020′s previous record of 128 homicides. The homicide rate for Jackson is 99.5 per 100,000 residents, a rate that blazes past Memphis, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Democratic leadership in aforementioned cities have no answers to curb the violence.

Of course, Democratic leadership in Jackson, MS is constrained by their Republican state legislature.  I guess red state governance isn't much safer at all!

On a related note, what are examples of successful large Republican cities?  The biggest cities in TX are famously blue.  Are Republicans categorically incapable of governance in large urban areas?

[ArtieChokePhin]

On a related note, what are examples of successful large Republican cities?  The biggest cities in TX are famously blue.  Are Republicans categorically incapable of governance in large urban areas?

They are capable.  They just choose not to be there.   The common denominator amongst liberals is that they live their lives based on fear and emotional feelings. Therefore, they tend to reside in large urban areas where it's easier to set up emergency and social services in case of a disaster.

Conservative leaning people tend to be much more resilient and self reliant.   They prefer to enjoy life free of fear and free to do as they please. This is why you’ll find them more outside of large urban cities, especially the ones that have a reputation of being shitholes.

[Dave Gray]

They are capable.  They just choose not to be there.   The common denominator amongst liberals is that they live their lives based on fear and emotional feelings. Therefore, they tend to reside in large urban areas where it's easier to set up emergency and social services in case of a disaster.

Conservative leaning people tend to be much more resilient and self reliant.   They prefer to enjoy life free of fear and free to do as they please. This is why you’ll find them more outside of large urban cities, especially the ones that have a reputation of being shitholes.

This is a dumb and also false statement.




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In fact, this conversation is dumb and pointless because so much correlation goes into why urban areas and population centers tend to have democratic leadership, while rural areas vote Republican.  It's tied into socioeconomics, education, culture, race, etc.  Gun crime is going to be a bigger issue in urban areas, by nature of them being urban areas.  Urban areas are more likely to have Democratic leadership.  If you then equate that to Democrats being responsible for gun crime, you are not thinking intelligently.  It would be equally stupid to blame Republican leadership for livestock injuries, because it never happens under Democratic leadership.

Trying to tie to the issues (or benefits) of living in a rural or urban area to the style of governance is stupid -- they are different types of areas with different problems.

[ArtieChokePhin]

They are capable.  They just choose not to be there.   The common denominator amongst liberals is that they live their lives based on fear and emotional feelings. Therefore, they tend to reside in large urban areas where it's easier to set up emergency and social services in case of a disaster.

Conservative leaning people tend to be much more resilient and self reliant.   They prefer to enjoy life free of fear and free to do as they please. This is why you’ll find them more outside of large urban cities, especially the ones that have a reputation of being shitholes.

This is a dumb and also false statement.

Then explain why the major conservative cities are either midsize cities or suburbs of large urban areas

[Dave Gray]

Then explain why the major conservative cities are either midsize cities or suburbs of large urban areas

Because lots of things bring you to big cities -- if you're interested in culture, acting, museums, diversity in population -- you're probably more likely to be liberal leaning based on statistics over the population.  You're going to find those things more in New York City than in a suburb in Texas.

Likewise, if you're interested in a tight-knit church community with shared values, you're not going to find that in L.A.  Or if you're interested in agriculture -- those things are going to be more commonly found outside of big cities and those people are likelier to lean conservative.

It plays into education -- if you're living in a small town, the fact is that, statistically you're more likely to leave as you get more education -- that's just a fact.  And, in general, more education means more liberal leaning voting records.  So, people who get college educated and are qualified for corporate jobs are more likely to move to big cities where those jobs are.  It's correlation.

There are tons of factors, but they're almost all correlative.  And it's not to say that educated people only vote for Democrats...that's not the case, but when you look at averages across an entire population of millions of people, it shaves a few percentage points which creates the divide.

[Fau Teixeira]

It would be equally stupid to blame Republican leadership for livestock injuries, because it never happens under Democratic leadership.

I like how you made this nicer by saying "livestock injuries" .. I believe the actual comparison i've seen to describe this was "goat fucking" as a way of illustrating the absurdity of saying that democrats cause more crime. Alot more goat fucking happens in red districts than in blue districts, therefore republicans fuck way more goats.

[Dave Gray]

Also, I didn't mention it -- but age and sexuality, too.

Gay people have a lot more going for them in cities -- also greatly weighted towards liberal voting.

As you age, you're likelier to tend to be more conservative as compared to the youth coming up behind you.  It also correlates to being more suited for a slower-paced or less expensive housing lifestyle, which is more common as you get away from cities.

[Spider-Dan]

They are capable.  They just choose not to be there.

You're talking about conservative residents, but my statement was about conservative governance.

Why are Republicans - even in deep red states -  unable to convince voters that they can govern large cities competently?

Conservative leaning people tend to be much more resilient and self reliant.

As we have previously discussed, red states are dependent on the tax money generated by blue states.  And this dynamic also plays out at a smaller scale: without the tax money from the liberal cities, rural citizens would have no roads to drive on, no telephone lines, no mail delivery from the USPS, etc.  The rural lifestyle is subsidized heavily by liberal urban productivity.

That's not to say that there isn't value in rural communities; they provide the food that goes on the table, for example.  But it's ridiculous to try to paint rural Americans as self-sufficient and urban Americans as frightened dependents.  If the last 6 years have made anything crystal clear, it's that rural Americans are absolutely terrified of anyone that's not exactly like them; be it someone of a different ethnicity, someone who speaks a different language, or someone of a different sexual orientation.