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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2022, 07:57:24 am »

This law is stupid and a failure and solves nothing and only serves to stir up funding and harass gay people.  We will look back at it in shame.

I wish the people in Florida would actually govern things that matter.  For fuck's sake, we have actual real issues to deal with and 3rd graders getting groomed by gay people ain't one of them.
You are very wrong Dave. It's meant to give parents protection from having someone's else's morals shoved down their kid's throat's.  Unfortunately I wouldn't have ever thought we'd need a law to stop drag queen reading time in public elemntary schools but in this day and age we do.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2022, 09:28:39 am »

You are very wrong Dave. It's meant to give parents protection from having someone's else's morals shoved down their kid's throat's.  Unfortunately I wouldn't have ever thought we'd need a law to stop drag queen reading time in public elemntary schools but in this day and age we do.

Nope its goal is the exact opposite.  Its goal is deny parents the right to protect their children from having hateful morals shoved down their children's throats.

You’re example is a perfect illustration of how stupid this law is.  “Drag queen reading time” isn’t a thing.  Passing a law to prevent something that does exist is stupid.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2022, 10:51:04 am »

Nope its goal is the exact opposite.  Its goal is deny parents the right to protect their children from having hateful morals shoved down their children's throats.

You’re example is a perfect illustration of how stupid this law is.  “Drag queen reading time” isn’t a thing.  Passing a law to prevent something that does exist is stupid.
Based on your history I'm guessing you just are leaving out the actual facts and already know this but

https://nypost.com/2021/05/22/doe-treats-nyc-students-to-virtual-drag-queen-story-hour/

https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/drag-queen-story-hour-moves-into-public-schools-the-1st-graders-loved-it.html

Or as they say on their official page https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2022, 11:13:43 am »

What's immoral about drag?  Depending on the content of the show, drag itself is totally kid appropriate.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2022, 11:33:37 am »

What's immoral about drag?  Depending on the content of the show, drag itself is totally kid appropriate.

No it is not.   Little kids do not need to be learning about drag queens or gender identifications in schools.   That's something they either learn from their parents if the parents choose to teach them, or find out about when they are older and more mature enough to make their own decisions.   

The problem with this liberal agenda is that you are going to have little kids growing up confused and not knowing who they are by the time they reach their 20s.  That can and will trigger depression which leads to drug addition, crime, suicide, etc....
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2022, 11:43:36 am »

If you're confused about your own sexuality because another man wears a dress, it ain't about the man in the dress - it's about you.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2022, 12:24:48 pm »

If you're confused about your own sexuality because another man wears a dress, it ain't about the man in the dress - it's about you.

And it's the PARENT'S job to help kids get unconfused and teach them about that stuff, not the public school system's.   Every kid is unique and you can't have uniqueness in a uniform curriculum.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2022, 01:12:06 pm »

It's so dumb that we're passing legislation over shit like this.  What the fuck is wrong with you people?

How about getting my phone to stop ringing 10 times a day with someone trying to steal my money?  How about the cost of housing here?

Can we do something about these things?

Edit: Modified to add that even I hate my own logic here.  I know you can walk and chew gum at the same time, but it certainly seems like our state politicians are putting effort into things like naming the official winner of swim meets based on gender, fighting schools about masking, and now shit like this, while simultaneously ignoring major shit where actually need legislation to fight real issues.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2022, 01:54:22 pm »

What's immoral about drag?  Depending on the content of the show, drag itself is totally kid appropriate.
So you're ok with this guy watching your kids? 
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2022, 02:15:04 pm »

So you're ok with this guy watching your kids? 


I mean....I don't know who that is and I don't let strangers watch my kids, in general, but yes -- I don't find people in drag to be dangerous deviants or anything.

I'd definitely take my kids to watch age appropriate drag shows.  Just the other day, I had a drag performance saved that I thought they'd really like and I showed it to them and they got a good laugh out of the surprise of it.

It was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048WnAatbPA

Starts at about :30....awesomeness at 1:25.


Drag is an art form like anything else.  ....it has a really positive message in most cases about loving yourself and confidence and being kind.  If you think drag is de-facto inappropriate, you probably don't have enough familiarity with it.
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2022, 06:24:15 pm »

Okay, I stand corrected it is a thing.  But a harmless thing.  In fact a beneficial thing. 

Saying that is okay for one group of people to wear dresses but not another is sexism.  And is objectively wrong.   And illegal.   And unconstitutional.  One of the basic goals of primary schools is teach children to get along with people who are different from them.  DeSantos wants to make the basic goal of primary school is to ostracize anyone that does not conform to his narrow view of the world. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2022, 11:19:47 pm »

This is pretty simple for me.  I don't think it's appropriate for kindergarten through 3rd grade to teach my son about sexuality.  Anything regarding sexuality and morals is a parents duty to teach their child, not the school system.  I applaud the law as I don't try to read into it more than it is like the people on the left are doing.  Desantis 2024.
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2022, 01:04:51 am »

I don't think it's appropriate for kindergarten through 3rd grade to teach my son about sexuality.
The law could have easily been written to only apply to K-3.
It was intentionally written otherwise so it would be applied to students in every grade.
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2022, 08:25:17 am »

The law could have easily been written to only apply to K-3.
It was intentionally written otherwise so it would be applied to students in every grade.
I don't interpret it that way, but I still don't care.  Teach my kid math, history, English, etc. It isn't their job to teach about sexuality.  If my kid has questions about that sort of thing, and I'm sure he will, my wife or I can answer those. 
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2022, 08:44:11 am »

It's not about teaching them sexuality.  Nobody is teaching 1st graders about gay sex. 

But there are realities about the world -- you just used the word "wife" casually.  What is a wife?  What is marriage?  Why are some people Mrs. and some Ms.?

It is a reality that some families have two moms.  To deny a teacher's ability to discuss that is hampering and ultimately will be damaging.  And really, what it will do is cause kids to be outcast that have those realities.  It's a shame.
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