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« on: May 10, 2022, 11:35:06 am »

I'm surprised no one is talking about this as it's big news.  They nabbed the pair from Alabama somewhere in Indiana.   The CO proceeded to commit suicide.   I'm shocked and surprised she world throw away her job and her pension for this scumbag, but after she killed herself, I realize that something wasn't right in her head.   
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2022, 11:41:26 am »

I heard reports that it was he who shot her in the head as they were being captured.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2022, 02:46:04 pm »

There's a very good miniseries on Showtime called Escape at Dannemora that dramatizes the similar, but crazier escape that happened a few years ago.

Stars Paul Dano, Patricia Arquette, and Bennecio Del Toro...directed by Ben Stiller.  It was awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2022, 03:02:31 pm »

The most troubling aspect and most predictable one as well is the way Sheriff Rick Singleton has responded to the complete failure of his department.

Absolutely no admission of his own departments blatant failures nor any plan to fix those failure.  But an immediate plan to engage in extrajudicial punishment and knowingly violating of Casey's civil rights and the eight amendment.    

"He will be in a cell by himself," Singleton said. "He will stay in handcuffs and shackles while he's in that cell and if he wants to sue me for violating his civil rights, so be it. He's not getting out of this jail again. I'll assure you that."

Casey did not break out because he has Houdini like skills or by tunneling out Shawshank Redemption style.  Nor did he overpower a guard, steal a weapon and force his way out.  

Casey got out because the Sheriff's department allowed him to leave.  

The kind of relationship necessary to motive Vicky to engage in this escape plan was not a one time incident nor unnoticed by other officers.  Yet, she was not stopped.  Interfering with another officer engaging in prohibited behavior with an inmate violates the "code of the thin blue line."   No doubt officers who mistreat inmates are offered the same deference rather than stopped.  Given the Sheriff's own statement regarding Casey's civil rights the violation of inmates basic rights is no doubt encouraged from the very top.

Department policy prohibited a single deputy from escorting him, yet no mention that any corrective action will be taken against those person(s) who allowed the policy to be violated.  

There was no appointment yet no verification was made before he was allowed to leave this is either a massive systemic failure of not having a system to verify or more likely a vagrant ignoring of very necessary safety protocols.  

The sheriff and his department's total cluster fuck endangered public safety, yet nothing is being done to correct that.  Rather the sheriff is going to trample over the constitution and do nothing that would actually prevented this.      

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2022, 04:59:08 pm »

Never underestimate how Hoodie will take any opportunity to call cops bad.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2022, 05:36:34 pm »

Never underestimate how Hoodie will take any opportunity to call cops bad.

Is it your contention that Singleton and his department's actions represents an acceptable level of public safety or are changes necessary?
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2022, 05:46:13 pm »

Never underestimate how Hoodie will take any opportunity to call cops bad.
Are you seriously defending the police in this situation?

This is absolutely an instance where the sheriff's department should be raked over the coals for their rank incompetence.  They put many communities in danger.  Why would you jump in to finger-wag at someone for criticizing the cops in THIS case?

In a situation like this, pro-police conservatives are best served by either a) agreeing that these are some of the "bad apples" that need to be cleaned up or b) not saying anything at all. It doesn't help your case when you defend literally anyone with a badge.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2022, 07:12:50 pm »

It's less about the situation and more about the constant whining at every turn, deserved or not.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2022, 07:21:31 pm »

But it IS deserved here; very much so.
And even when it is deserved - even when we are talking about cops who are clearly bad apples - you choose to focus not on the bad cops, but... on the people calling out the bad cops, for their anti-police attitudes?

Come on, man.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2022, 07:45:21 pm »

Just for the record I have the utmost respect for good cops.  For example:

Lt. Mark Klukow

Cmdr. Charlie Adams

Sgt. Darcy Klund

Lt. Christie Nelson

Lt. Nick Torborg

Off. Mike Kirchen

Sgt. Pete Stanton

Lt. Gary Nelson

Lt. Rich Jackson

Sgt. Mohamed Abdullahi

Lt. Molly Fischer

Are good cops.  Unfortunately they are the only good cops in the entire Minneapolis police department.

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2022, 08:00:33 am »

In the series I watched, based on real life, other cops were implicated in the escape, indirectly.  Turning a blind eye to other cops breaking the rules is how this stuff occurred then, as well.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2022, 08:59:42 am »

In the series I watched, based on real life, other cops were implicated in the escape, indirectly.  Turning a blind eye to other cops breaking the rules is how this stuff occurred then, as well.

Cops turning a blind eye to other cops breaking the rules is so common place and accepted that mentioning it as a problem is called “constant whining”. 

A police officer enforcing the rules on another officer is so rare to be almost nonexistent.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2022, 09:56:12 am »

I did find that cop's statement a little bit weird when I originally read it.

This guy didn't break out of prison.  They let him out.  Which, I mean....he still broke the law and deserves the consequences, but it's not like shackles and tightened security are the solution here.  He didn't burrow out of a tunnel or something.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2022, 03:03:20 pm »

Bad word choice. Tightening security is definitely necessary. The lax practices allowed the escape.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2022, 03:07:14 pm »

Tightening security procedures from within the department, yes -- but not better bars, stronger locks, more locked down inmates, fewer activities, etc.   ....not the traditional response after a prison break.

This is a failure of their staff, not their tools, and not the behavior of the inmates.
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