Thoughts on the Bills win.

[Spider-Dan]

Turnovers are, obviously, a huge part of any game.

"Handing the offense the ball in position to score" is also very different than "a defensive score."  The reason why is simple: red zone offense.

MIA's red zone offense is currently 5th in the league (and that is including the victory formation at the end of the NE game as a "failed red zone attempt"); when your red zone offense is less efficient than what the Dolphins are currently showing, "handing the offense the ball in position to score" can turn into 3 or even 0 points.

[Pappy13]

Well, we easily handled the Patriots who aren't as good as us.

Agreed. We need to do that with all the other games on our schedule where the opponent isn't as good as us. We have a bunch coming up. We win those games, then you will see me hopping on the band wagon, till then I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Dolfanalyst]

Turnovers are, obviously, a huge part of any game.

"Handing the offense the ball in position to score" is also very different than "a defensive score."  The reason why is simple: red zone offense.

MIA's red zone offense is currently 5th in the league (and that is including the victory formation at the end of the NE game as a "failed red zone attempt"); when your red zone offense is less efficient than what the Dolphins are currently showing, "handing the offense the ball in position to score" can turn into 3 or even 0 points.

Right, but none of that is likely, hence the EPA of -4.4 for Buffalo for the sack/fumble.  Certainly having the ball 1st and goal on the 6 yard line involves a far higher probability of scoring a touchdown than does mounting a drive from your own 20 for example, with a customary number of plays.

Had Buffalo simply advanced the ball to let's say the 30 on that drive and punted, giving the Dolphins the ball on their own 20, the Dolphins' likelihood of scoring a TD on that ensuing possession would've been vastly diminished in comparison to the sack/fumble and having the ball on the Bills' 6.  The defense essentially made the offense's job of scoring far easier.

All of this can be viewed within a framework of "likelihood of scoring a touchdown" -- also known as expected points (and expected points added).

[fyo]

Bills' OC's reaction to McKenzie cutting back into the field of play and the team not managing to get a spike off:

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1574130984202690564

[Dave Gray]

That is fucking embarrassing.  That's a grown man breaking his desk because he sucks at work.  What a god-damned lunatic.

[masterfins]

That is fucking embarrassing.  That's a grown man breaking his desk because he sucks at work.  What a god-damned lunatic.

LOL, yeah but if it was Miami that did that I would have had the same reaction, as most on this site would have.
Especially if you add in the fact they screwed up the same way before halftime.

[Spider-Dan]

LOL, yeah but if it was Miami that did that I would have had the same reaction, as most on this site would have.
Especially if you add in the fact they screwed up the same way before halftime.

An offensive coordinator at the highest level of the sport should not have the same reaction as a knucklehead fan like you or me.
Show some professionalism.

[masterfins]

Tua keeps impressing me more each week.

Skylar Thompson needs to be upgraded to the #2 QB in the depth chart.

Miami's defense is one of the best in the NFL, they have been winning games for three years now.

Miami is playing as TEAM like I haven't seen in a couple decades.

Buffalo can't use the excuse of having a banged up defense, because their defense was hardly on the field at all.

[CF DolFan]

Bills' OC's reaction to McKenzie cutting back into the field of play and the team not managing to get a spike off:

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1574130984202690564

That's former Miami Hurricane's great Ken Dorsey. Had us rolling on the floor we were laughing so hard.

[Dave Gray]

LOL, yeah but if it was Miami that did that I would have had the same reaction, as most on this site would have.

Uh....I absolutely would not.

That's knucklehead, amateur behavior.

My style of coach is one that knows that you win some and you lose some, so you do your best to prepare and execute calmly.

This is bush-league, hack shit.  It's hilarious to us, but troubling behavior from a lunatic.

[Spider-Dan]

The best part of it is that in the preseason, Dorsey was specifically asked about being moved from the sideline to the skybox because of "psychopath" tendencies.

[CF DolFan]

The best part of it is that in the preseason, Dorsey was specifically asked about being moved from the sideline to the skybox because of "psychopath" tendencies.

That's pretty funny. I even saw an old tweet from Josh Allen saying somehting in response to him ... "that's what a psychopath would say" so it's already been a joke among them.

Bills OC Ken Dorsey: "It was a playoff atmosphere ... obviously we weren't on the winning end of it, so it's frustrating and, you know, reacted that way and obviously that's something that I'm definitely gonna learn from ... and make sure let's correct moving forward."

Question I'm wondering about is who covered the camera with their hand? Think it was a CBS person or a Bills person tryiing to protect him? Either way it was too little too late ... hahahaha

[Spider-Dan]

Looks like another Bills coach to me.  At the start of the clip, you can see an assistant coach in the top right quickly take off his headset and disappear.

[EDGECRUSHER]

That is fucking embarrassing.  That's a grown man breaking his desk because he sucks at work.  What a god-damned lunatic.

How do you think the player who didn't get out of bounds felt after seeing Dorsey lose his shit? A passionate coach can motivate players because they feel like he is on their side, but it also goes the other way sometimes.

[Spider-Dan]

Everyone is bashing McKenzie for not getting out of bounds, but you can literally see the bright red FG TARGET LINE on the screen.  If he sprints directly out of bounds, it's a 64 yard field goal and there's about 9 seconds left on the clock.  Hindsight is 20/20.