The midterms

[CF DolFan]

Just saw this in a CNN article. The Democrats have gone from having 700,000 more registered voters in 2008 to now being behind by about 300,000. That's a 1 million swing in registered voters.. Somehtin else to note ... the population growth of Florida has also given us another House seat which could end up being Republican as well.


When Barack Obama won Florida in 2008, his historic campaign brought a wave of new Democratic voters. Registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans in Florida by nearly 700,000, their largest advantage since 1990.

That gap has dwindled in the years since. But after the 2020 election, the reversal has accelerated and it has touched nearly every part of the state, from the urban cores and their suburbs, to the rural communities that line the Panhandle and dot Central Florida. Republicans grew their numbers in 52 of the state’s 67 counties since Biden and Trump were on the ballot. Meanwhile, there are fewer registered Democrats in all but one county than there were two years ago — a net loss of 331,000 voters overall.

As of last month, there were 5.3 million registered Republicans and just under 5 million Democrats in Florida, marking the first time in state history that the GOP will carry a voter advantage on Election Day.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/01/politics/florida-midterms-2022/index.html

[Dave Gray]

I can kinda feel the switch.  I moved to a more Cuban focused area and it's much more heavily Republican.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Big question is how much of that "Red wave" is people like me.  My entire life I have voted mostly in Democrat primaries and for Democrats in the general election. In the past two primaries I have voted in Republican primaries to vote for candidates that are not extremists.

I am part of the "new Republicans" that left the Democratic party. I voted straight Democrat in early voting.

[CF DolFan]

Big question is how much of that "Red wave" is people like me.  My entire life I have voted mostly in Democrat primaries and for Democrats in the general election. In the past two primaries I have voted in Republican primaries to vote for candidates that are not extremists.

I am part of the "new Republicans" that left the Democratic party. I voted straight Democrat in early voting.

It's a very small minority. People didn't move to Florida to turn it into the place they left behind.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It's a very small minority. People didn't move to Florida to turn it into the place they left behind.

I know about two dozen people who have moved to Florida.  Not a single one moved to Florida because they wanted a "Red State"  they moved to Florida because they hate snow.

[Dave Gray]

I think the single biggest reason that people move here is because they want to retire in a climate different from where they spent their life.

And in most of those cases, they supported local programs and schools because they benefitted from them.
Now that their kids are grown and they just wanna live out their days and be left alone, they vote against spending they used to vote for.

That's probably the single biggest factor, historically, for implants.

[Spider-Dan]

People didn't move to Florida to turn it into the place they left behind.

This is a common saying: "People don't move to [x] to turn it into the place they left."
But it happens all the time!  You can see this in the frequent complaints from conservatives about being Californiafied by new residents.

People regularly move because of work, school, or family obligations.  They move for a promotion, or to be closer to relatives for child care.  That does not mean they necessarily sign on to banning abortion, or removing discussion of slavery from their kids' history books.

And this argument would never, ever fly in reverse.  Imagine if I tried to claim that any conservative in the military who gets assigned to a base in California now must agree with gun control, high income taxes, and gay marriage.  He didn't move to California to turn it into Texas!

It's a silly point.

[CF DolFan]

I know about two dozen people who have moved to Florida.  Not a single one moved to Florida because they wanted a "Red State"  they moved to Florida because they hate snow.

If that's the case then DeSantis and Rubio are toast and you will be happy. I've met at least two dozen (probably more) and not one has said that. We meet people in restaurants and local stores quite often who have recently moved here. They have no problem telling us how they plan on voting ... LOL . I live in an area that has quite  bit of retirees moving down here as I'm not far from the Villages.

A couple of weeks ago we sold a mattress to a couple from Boston area. I think it was Bridgewater or something like that. They were Patriots and Sox fans so we got to talking about my Dolphin flag. In thie course of the converstion they let me and my wife know they were happy to be here under DeSantis but couldn't stomach our teams ... ahahaha. They were both former military and actually why they moved south as she was on disability.

Retirees move for weather. The middle age people are moving for a better life. The higher number aren't because more people are retiring.

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Sweet  mercy, CF...you just make shit up that matches up with whatever story you want to tell.

"I know this guy who thinks _____"

"I met this person who said ______"

What a maroon...

[CF DolFan]

Funny you say that about me but not Hoodie. Registrations are matching what I "claim" is my experience and it backs me up but the actual facts doesn't matter to you. You just wanted to get a rise out of m and now I'm embarrassed I wasted a moment of my time responding to you. Truth has never mattered to you.

[Fau Teixeira]

I buy it. I 100% believe that CF has those interactions. I see groups of people here in Connecticut that when they see my license plate (still florida.. working on getting it changed) and they tell me how lucky i am to have desantis as a governor.

It's easy to like the guy that fox news (and related right wing media, social or otherwise) has basically made out to be the best governor in the history of the world.

[dolphins4life]

He sure is wildly popular in Florida and should win this election by a landslide.

I haven't seen him disrespect healthcare workers yet, so that is a plus.

[masterfins]

I know about two dozen people who have moved to Florida.  Not a single one moved to Florida because they wanted a "Red State"  they moved to Florida because they hate snow.

That and the lower taxes (income, sales, and property).

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

That and the lower taxes (income, sales, and property).

For the most part property tax and sales tax was very  similar.  Income tax was mostly irrelevant as they were retired with very little taxable income and living off of savings. Despite the claims of FL politicians the number one draw of Florida is weather not anything they actually do.

[Spider-Dan]

It's always weird to hear conservatives talk about people loving the economic freedom of TX and FL, when CA has a lot more residents than either one.
"Lots of people want to live here" means your style of governance is better... unless we are talking about every major city in America (nearly all of which are heavily Democratic) where suddenly that stops being the case, and the number of people living there is somehow irrelevant.