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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2023, 10:46:48 am »

They have until June 1st to decide anything so it may take a while before we hear anything "official".
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2023, 12:21:07 pm »

Wow.  I'm incredibly surprised by this.

If this is being reported correctly, then I think we all have to re-evaluate our read on this situation.  If what we are accusing this guy of is true, the Dolphins wouldn't be trying to keep him on the team.

Never say never in the sports world, but if true then the team should feel ashamed for how they handled it. Everything they said and didn't say led everyone to believe he was just sitting out. They never came out and said "He's had a very rough recovery and he can't play until fully healed. He is trying his best, he is not sitting out and we hope he will be back."

That's why I think this is just a rumor, I don't feel there is any truth towards it.
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2023, 12:49:30 pm »

^ I'm not sure I agree.

I never got anything from the team at any level that suggested that was sitting out.  Their company line was that he was working hard but it just wasn't happening yet.  I always assumed that was spin / they didn't want to air dirty laundry as a distraction.

All of the speculation that he was quitting on the team came from forums / twitter / football "insiders", in terms of what I saw.
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2023, 12:55:06 pm »

McDaniel gave a lot of non-answers towards the 2nd half of the year and was obviously annoyed by the whole situation, at least that's how I read it.

But like I said, when you have articles and all of social media saying someone quit on the team due to an injury that was supposed to be healed in Week 1, you should come right out and deny all of that and say it's 100% medical related. It's not always what you say, but what you don't say.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2023, 02:18:18 pm »

^ That's a fair criticism.

I never took it that way, but I see what you mean.
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2023, 03:32:45 pm »

Never say never in the sports world, but if true then the team should feel ashamed for how they handled it. Everything they said and didn't say led everyone to believe he was just sitting out. They never came out and said "He's had a very rough recovery and he can't play until fully healed. He is trying his best, he is not sitting out and we hope he will be back."

That's why I think this is just a rumor, I don't feel there is any truth towards it.

For what it’s worth im with you and think your take here will be the right one and he doesn’t coke back.

But..maybe Miami does want him back and whatever was wrong was just shielded from us. If they can work something out I’d be for it, so I hope it’s true.
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2023, 04:19:30 pm »

For what it’s worth im with you and think your take here will be the right one and he doesn’t coke back.

But..maybe Miami does want him back and whatever was wrong was just shielded from us. If they can work something out I’d be for it, so I hope it’s true.

If they can somehow mend fences and the reason for his absence is legit, Byron on say an $8 Million a year contract would be a nice thing to have. The rookie filled in admirably but you can't have enough depth in this league.

With his age and missing a whole year for an injury that had him scheduled to play in Week 1, I think he knows his big money days are over. No one is going to give him more than $10 Million a year after this season so maybe he stays where he is comfortable. We'll see how this soap opera plays out.
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2023, 04:36:21 pm »

^ I'm not sure I agree.

I never got anything from the team at any level that suggested that was sitting out.  Their company line was that he was working hard but it just wasn't happening yet.  I always assumed that was spin / they didn't want to air dirty laundry as a distraction.

All of the speculation that he was quitting on the team came from forums / twitter / football "insiders", in terms of what I saw.

Sam Madison calling him out was a pretty big deal - considering his deep connections within the team, and I would assume the medical staff.

It's not just a few of us here that came to that conclusion - if you check out the Phinsider forum they had a poll on who should be gone this offseason, and virtually all of them had Byron Jones in their list (and most of those at the very top). A lot of people think he flat out quit - and the team hasn't really done much until now to quell this.  
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2023, 04:56:41 pm »

I forgot about Madison, but that does back up what we all say about him. It's hard to win back your teammates trust if you sat out healthy for a whole year, especially when they desperately needed you due to injuries.

We'll see soon enough, but if he is a post June 1st cut, we will know about it well before that date.
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2023, 08:28:41 am »

That's kinda what I'm saying.  Sam Madison is a radio personality who has to make takes to stay relevant as a guest.  He's not addressing this from a team capacity.  He might be picking up on their frustration, but I've never heard anything from a team source.
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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2023, 11:02:51 am »

That's kinda what I'm saying.  Sam Madison is a radio personality who has to make takes to stay relevant as a guest.  He's not addressing this from a team capacity.  He might be picking up on their frustration, but I've never heard anything from a team source.

Wasn't Madison a coach of some sorts or an advisor with Miami this year?
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2023, 11:18:06 am »

That's kinda what I'm saying.  Sam Madison is a radio personality who has to make takes to stay relevant as a guest.  He's not addressing this from a team capacity.  He might be picking up on their frustration, but I've never heard anything from a team source.
Huh?? He is the cornerbacks coach and pass game specialist for the Dolphins. He had Patrick Surtain on staff as an assistant too but he left after the season to work for FSU.
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« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2023, 12:34:55 pm »

^ I didn't know he worked with the team as a coach.  My bad.

I thought he was showing up on these shows as a former player to give some insight.

If he's a coach or has inside team knowledge, then his comments are much more meaningful.
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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2023, 12:41:20 pm »

IMO any talk of Jones being on the team next year is PURE SPIN to try and unload him on another team and get rid of his contract.  He can be 100% ready to play, like he has been for the last several months, but the team and staff do not want him on their team anymore.  He did what everyone thinks he did and now Miami just wants to get back their cap space he is taking up.
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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2023, 01:02:21 pm »

IMO any talk of Jones being on the team next year is PURE SPIN to try and unload him on another team and get rid of his contract.  He can be 100% ready to play, like he has been for the last several months, but the team and staff do not want him on their team anymore.  He did what everyone thinks he did and now Miami just wants to get back their cap space he is taking up.

At best he is going for a 7th rounder but I'll take it as long as that makes more sense for our cap than cutting him post June 1st. I will never understand NFL salary rules so I always have to rely on news outlets for explanations.
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