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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2023, 07:58:24 pm »

^^^^ Yeah let's have a complicated blocking scheme that is hard to teach, thereby hard to understand, when we have players moving among three different spots on the offensive line.  That's a great plan.  Huh
I'm sure Brian Flores had a blocking scheme that was very easy to teach and understand.
It just sucked.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2023, 07:43:50 am »

I'm sure Brian Flores had a blocking scheme that was very easy to teach and understand.
It just sucked.

Wasn't it under Flores that we fired the offensive line coach during OTAs or something because he wasn't able to teach the scheme?
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2023, 09:00:34 am »

One thing you always hear about the offensive line is the importance of consistency. We've now had 5 offensive line coaches in 5 years.
That sounds an awful lot like the chicken and the egg question. Is the offensive line bad because of inconsistent coaching or is the inconsistent coaching because of the bad offensive line? Does it matter?
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2023, 09:05:50 am »

That sounds an awful lot like the chicken and the egg question. Is the offensive line bad because of inconsistent coaching or is the inconsistent coaching  because of the bad offensive line? Does it matter?

We've tried to make sense of it for a decade now. Do the players suck? Do the O-Line coaches suck? How can every coach suck? How can every draft pick suck? Very hard to answer. All I know is, we got 3 guys on the line right now who are very good or better. Just need a reliable RT and someone who isn't a turnstile at LG and this is a Top 10 unit.

If Austin Jackson sees more than 30 snaps this season, lots of things went wrong.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2023, 12:13:14 am »

Two wins to start the season, without Armstead on the field, and the O-line has looked pretty darn good.  Tua isn't running for his life, and the O-line actually opened up some holes for Mostert to run through.  It's some of the same players Miami has had for years, so the question becomes is the coaching better?  I just hope it keeps up.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2023, 07:40:31 am »

I think it's a combination of several things, but the primary factor IMHO is that Tua is getting rid of the ball crazy fast. NFL's NextGenStats have him with ta time-to-throw of 2.35 seconds, which is the fastest of anyone over the past couple of years. And when you compare it with the depth of his throws (completed as well as intended) it's just pretty special. Usually, when quarterbacks have to get the ball out really quickly, the throws are fairly short.

Tua is also moving much better in the pocket, which is not just a quarterback thing, but also a question of designing the blocking scheme to allow pressure in specific areas, but not in others - and the qb then has to trust that and know where he can move during the play. That synergy is just much improved over last year and the offensive line certainly gets at least some of the credit from that.

Finally, the offensive line, the tight ends, and the running backs have all just been doing better at not allowing fast pressure. There were a couple of plays last week where Joey Bosa was chipped by a running back with no help from anyone. I'm not thrilled about that matchup, but it worked and full credit to both coaches and players for making it work.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2023, 12:52:33 pm »

McDaniel is going to have to keep changing the game plan every week and keep different plays churning in the system. Otherwise other teams will start getting more interceptions. Can't get too predictable.
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2023, 06:23:35 pm »

I think it's a combination of coaching and personnel - the latter has definitely taken a step up.

Isaiah Wynn has been a HUGE addition to the interior! Have a look back at the Denver game, and see how many of those big run holes were created by him and Hunt - all of a sudden what was a problem position for us at guard for years looks solid (I just hope Williams injury isn't serious).

On the outside, at RT Jackson now looks like the guy we thought we drafted. Maybe that's coaching, maybe that's the shock of not having his option taken up resulting in him making more of an effort? I was ready to write him off last year, and so far this is a complete 180 turn.

Add in a fit Armstead (just how good did he look last Sunday running out in space to block downfield?) and this looks like a very, very good group. We've waited long enough for it!
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2023, 08:53:51 am »

I think it's a combination of coaching and personnel - the latter has definitely taken a step up.

Isaiah Wynn has been a HUGE addition to the interior! Have a look back at the Denver game, and see how many of those big run holes were created by him and Hunt - all of a sudden what was a problem position for us at guard for years looks solid (I just hope Williams injury isn't serious).

On the outside, at RT Jackson now looks like the guy we thought we drafted. Maybe that's coaching, maybe that's the shock of not having his option taken up resulting in him making more of an effort? I was ready to write him off last year, and so far this is a complete 180 turn.

Add in a fit Armstead (just how good did he look last Sunday running out in space to block downfield?) and this looks like a very, very good group. We've waited long enough for it!

Sometimes it's the Jimmys and Joes, sometimes it's the X's and O's.   For one reason or the other (or both) it wasn't working for a long long time.   Since 2003, I can't recall this team having a single season with a decent offensive line up until now.  Like you, I'm hoping it stays that way this season.
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