Hunter Biden investigations (from GOP primary thread)

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

He was investigated for 8 months and these charges filed while Hunter Biden has been under investigation for several years and crickets. In fact ... they are getting close to running out of time to be able to file charges on Hunter which would surely be a coincidence.

Yes, Sessions and Barr investigated Hunter Biden for four years.  And Trump attempted to blackmail Ukraine into fabricating evidence against Hunter.  Yet they never had enough to even consider taking it to a grand jury.  

[CF DolFan]

^^^ The FBI had had evidence for 5 years but buried it. Once mainstream media started saying hey ... their may be something to all this GOP banter they actually started pretending to investigate. At the very minimum he is guilty of tax evasion and if what the GOP says is true then Hunter and his daddy are guilty of much more. I'm curious how innocent you would think things were if the FBI had secret  information about Trump they were admittingly refusing to turn over to the Democrats and were only brought to light by a whistle blower who is no longer allowed on the case?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^ The FBI had had evidence for 5 years but buried it. Once mainstream media started saying hey ... their may be something to all this GOP banter they actually started pretending to investigate. At the very minimum he is guilty of tax evasion and if what the GOP says is true then Hunter and his daddy are guilty of much more. I'm curious how innocent you would think things were if the FBI had secret  information about Trump they were admittingly refusing to turn over to the Democrats and were only brought to light by a whistle blower who is no longer allowed on the case?

Chris Wrey a republican appointed by Trump buried the evidence?

[pondwater]

Pick one:

Actually enforce common sense gun laws on the books

OR

Ignore common sense gun laws on the books and allow crackheads to buy firearms


Hunter Biden lied about being an unlawful user of drugs on ATF form 4473 when he purchased a firearm. This Form requires buyers to answer several questions, including those about the buyer’s competency, criminal history, drug use, immigration status, and history with domestic violence.  Applicants who knowingly make false statements may also face criminal prosecution for a felony and up to 10 years in federal prison.

[Spider-Dan]

Pick one:

Investigating and/or indicting high-profile members of the opposition party is unacceptable abuse of power and politically-motivated persecution

OR

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden should be prosecuted and locked up for their heinous crimes

Y'all claim that there is all this dirt on Hunter Biden, but yet House Republicans have shown absolutely nothing after their fishing expedition.  You want to start locking gun owners up if they are found to have used illegal drugs... and you think Democrats will object to this development?  By all means, establish that precedent for throwing gun owners in jail; I will happily demand a warrant for Joe Rogan's arrest the next day.

Don't threaten us with a good time.

[pondwater]

Pick one:

Investigating and/or indicting high-profile members of the opposition party is unacceptable abuse of power and politically-motivated persecution

OR

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden should be prosecuted and locked up for their heinous crimes

Y'all claim that there is all this dirt on Hunter Biden, but yet House Republicans have shown absolutely nothing after their fishing expedition.

Absolutely nothing? Why hasn't Hunter Biden been charged with making false statements in connection with a handgun purchase, after allegedly claiming on a 2018 gun form he did not use illegal drugs even though Biden has admitted he was in the throes of addiction at the time?

You want to start locking gun owners up if they are found to have used illegal drugs... and you think Democrats will object to this development?  By all means, establish that precedent for throwing gun owners in jail; I will happily demand a warrant for Joe Rogan's arrest the next day.

Don't threaten us with a good time.

We are a nation of laws and I support enforcing the laws currently on the books. Hunter commited a felony in an open and shut case. Why hasn't he been charged? None of your word salad really matters, either you support enforcing the laws or you don't.

[Spider-Dan]

We are a nation of laws and I support enforcing the laws currently on the books.

Speaking of "word salad": do you support or oppose the indictment and prosecution of the current frontrunner in the GOP presidential primary, Donald Trump?

[pondwater]

Speaking of "word salad": do you support or oppose the indictment and prosecution of the current frontrunner in the GOP presidential primary, Donald Trump?

So you're playing the answer a question with a question game. That's twice now that you've deflected and avoided answering a question.

Anyhow, if they have evidence that Trump actually broke laws I fully support charging him. But they don't need my support to charge him and (this is important) he has already been charged. So your question is a moot point used to redirect the original question I asked.

So why hasn't Biden been charged? I guess what you're trying to tippy toe around and say is that it's perfectly OK to enforce laws against your political opponents, but not enforce them against the people you support? Is that a fair assessment?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

So why hasn't Biden been charged?

Because the available credible evidence does not support charging him with a crime. 

[pondwater]

Because the available credible evidence does not support charging him with a crime.  

Not according to NBC and several other media outlets.

In 2018, during a period when he has admitted using cocaine, Hunter Biden purchased a firearm, which required him to fill out a form that included a question about whether he was addicted to or abusing any unlawful substance

Sounds like pure cope on your end. Crackhead Biden committed a felony and publicly admitted it like a dumbass and you're defending not charging him. So much for the left wanting "common sense" gun laws when they won't even enforce the laws already on the books because it's the POTUS son. That's exactly why you can't be taken seriously.

[Spider-Dan]

So why hasn't Biden been charged?

Because there is no actual evidence that he has committed a crime.

Let's stipulate that Hunter Biden is on tape somewhere admitting to use of illegal drugs.  This is not a crime that you can charge someone with, because that's not our justice system works; cops cannot just walk into a drug rehab and start arresting people for possession, using their admissions applications as "evidence."  Law enforcement would have to collect actual evidence that Hunter Biden possessed an illegal drug: for example, like when law enforcement found Donald Trump in possession of illegal classified documents.  It is at that point that Hunter's own statements of guilt could come into play to prove that he knew what he was doing (mens rea): for example, when Donald Trump was recorded saying that he knew the documents he was showing off were classified and that he knew he did not declassify them when he was president.

Since Hunter has yet to have been found guilty of possession an illegal drug (during the time period in question), he therefore can not be prosecuted for violation of the terms of the gun permit application.  I'm sure it would be convenient for you if we skipped to step 2, but again, that's not how our justice system works.

[Spider-Dan]

Crackhead Biden committed a felony and publicly admitted it like a dumbass and you're defending not charging him. So much for the left wanting "common sense" gun laws when they won't even enforce the laws already on the books because it's the POTUS son. That's exactly why you can't be taken seriously.

This is rich coming from a supporter of a politician who has bragged on tape about sexually assaulting women.
Yet somehow I'm guessing you don't think we should "enforce the laws already on the books" regarding sexual assault.

[pondwater]

Because there is no actual evidence that he has committed a crime.

Let's stipulate that Hunter Biden is on tape somewhere admitting to use of illegal drugs.  This is not a crime that you can charge someone with, because that's not our justice system works; cops cannot just walk into a drug rehab and start arresting people for possession, using their admissions applications as "evidence."  Law enforcement would have to collect actual evidence that Hunter Biden possessed an illegal drug: for example, like when law enforcement found Donald Trump in possession of illegal classified documents.  It is at that point that Hunter's own statements of guilt could come into play to prove that he knew what he was doing (mens rea): for example, when Donald Trump was recorded saying that he knew the documents he was showing off were classified and that he knew he did not declassify them when he was president.

Since Hunter has yet to have been found guilty of possession an illegal drug (during the time period in question), he therefore can not be prosecuted for violation of the terms of the gun permit application.  I'm sure it would be convenient for you if we skipped to step 2, but again, that's not how our justice system works.

So photographic and/or video evidence can't be used in conjunction with an admission of guilt to charge people with crimes?  There's photographic evidence he was on drugs. He admitted he was on drugs. Keep in mind that he wouldn't be charged with any drug crimes. He would be charged with lying on a federal firearms form 4473 which is a felony?

So by your logic, in order to enforce the common sense gun law of crackheads not buying guns, you have to catch the crackhead actually smoking crack while buying a gun? You guys crack me up, LMFAO

[Phishfan]

That has to be a photoshop. Crackhead don't sleep

[pondwater]

That has to be a photoshop. Crackhead don't sleep

Everyone sleeps at some point.