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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2025, 09:11:31 am »

I didn't catch the name of the guy, but Joe Rose was talking about a guy who has changed 3 times since last season. This means he has been on 4 teams in a year. I think most people would agree that is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with making rules for eligibility in college but they refuse to do so. I would love for us to go back to sitting out a year for unnecessary transfers. I'm all for allowing players to change if the coach leaves.

IMO, players should only be able to transfer and play immediately if they meet the following criteria:

1.  Family emergency (and this would need to be investigated)
2.  Coach leaves
3.  Graduate transfer
4.  Transfer to a downward tier school (Division 1-AA or Division 2)
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2025, 11:18:17 am »

I think college sports are going to face the same issues of inequality and an inability to improve programs as prosports have with no salary cap.

I think the whole sham of College sports being regarded as an "amateur" game should be nuked immediately.

For comparison in Australia, the AFL players are drafted at 18 years of age straight out of high school (it used to be a lot younger) and paid appropriately because their career can end in a hurry. They are actively encouraged to take further education at University all the way through to have a pathway post-football, and most of, if not all, do wisely take advantage of that. But they also have a pretty healthy paycheck regardless, even at the bottom of the bottom rates.

Colleges make a fortune out of these athletes at the same age, and for too long they had to live on breadcrumbs. Yes their tuition is paid, but there should be a fairer apportionment. Is there any evidence that the massive bucketloads of cash from broadcasting rights that these athletes are generating to the Colleges are being used to discount the fees being charged to everyone else? I haven't heard of it.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2025, 12:05:41 pm »

Don't these guys have a limited time to play in college anyway?  If they want to spend their eligibility years transferring, so be it.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2025, 01:31:57 pm »

Don't these guys have a limited time to play in college anyway?  If they want to spend their eligibility years transferring, so be it.

That could change soon if the Supreme Court strips the eligibility rule from the NCAA.  They just might, hell they've stripped almost everything else.  And next thing you know, you have 25-30 year olds playing college ball.  
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2025, 02:17:39 pm »

I'm here for the death of college sports entirely. I hope it becomes to incredibly fake that the people stop watching and it stops polluting our Saturdays with low quality garbage games.

Barring that, if the universities are making millions and millions off the literal backs of these athletes, they're entitled to as much as they can get.

What these college players should do is unionize and bargain with the universities collectively and withhold services if they don't agree to a fair division of the proceeds.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2025, 03:42:32 pm »

And next thing you know, you have 25-30 year olds playing college ball.  
As long as they are actually attending classes what would be wrong with this?
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2025, 06:10:30 pm »

As long as they are actually attending classes what would be wrong with this?

Where this could really hurt is minor league baseball.  Kids will stay in college knowing they can get more in NIL than minor league baseball pay.   Not to mention it's easier to hit with aluminum bats.
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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2025, 07:04:45 pm »

And next thing you know, you have 25-30 year olds playing college ball.
Chris Weinke won the Heisman at age 28, a quarter-century ago.
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2025, 10:11:03 pm »

Where this could really hurt is minor league baseball.  Kids will stay in college knowing they can get more in NIL than minor league baseball pay.   Not to mention it's easier to hit with aluminum bats.
Or perhaps minor league baseball will have to actually you know, pay them something...they are afterall the practice squad for MLB.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2025, 07:11:14 pm »

It’s seems like there could have been a medium between paying players so they don’t steal crab legs and making them collegiate millionaires.

Oh well.
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2025, 07:24:14 pm »

Given the amount of money floating around in college football, I'd rather more money go to the players than to coaches and administrators (who are already millionaires).
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2025, 11:04:48 am »

Given the amount of money floating around in college football, I'd rather more money go to the players than to coaches and administrators (who are already millionaires).

How about all that extra money going to fund the school's athletic programs that don't make money so they can operate?

How about the money going towards research projects for the school or facility improvements for the campus?

How about the money going to local hospitals and schools and other charities?
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2025, 05:43:42 pm »

Oh, those things are important?  Then take some of those millions you've been paying coaches and administrators for decades.  Take some of the money from the millions upon millions you are spending on locker rooms and training facilities and stadium suites.

The actual players in the game deserve the money.  Everyone else is a distant second.
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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2025, 07:00:10 pm »

Money generated by CFB should always have been funded into academic research and scholarship programs, lowering tuition costs etc but that’s not how things work on a society where every thing is a business and the only objective is to be in the black

No sense arguing the system but I maintain there could have been something else other than don’t play players at all and give them millions upon millions as well. Again oh well.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2025, 11:35:38 am »

No sense arguing the system but I maintain there could have been something else other than don’t play players at all and give them millions upon millions as well. Again oh well.
Most players aren't getting millions, there's only a few select players getting that kind of money. Most aren't even getting a decent salary. I found this with a chatGPT search.

For instance, NCAA data from 2024 indicated that the average NIL earnings for football and men's and women's basketball players were nearly $38,000, but the median earning was only $1,328, highlighting significant disparities.
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Below is the full article where that came from.

When 2025 arrives, so will the end of the amateur athlete in college sports
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