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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2025, 10:15:58 am »

Other than Laremy Tunsil, none really started off too great.

In fact, his best two picks in Tunsil and Fitzpatrick, weren't around very long after falling into his lap.

Fitzpatrick was a hit out of the park... it's a pity he butted heads with Flores right off the bat, and got shipped out. If you want a sliding doors moment for our rebuild, that was probably it. 
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2025, 10:29:20 am »

To be honest, like the last couple of years, I'm not hugely excited about this draft coming up.

We don't have a great number of draft picks at the pointy end, and the more time goes on, I'm thinking Grier isn't that much better than Ireland. Both were decent with the predictable, safe upper round picks they made, and had some good lower round picks... but both have royally fucked up when they have taken real risks, especially when they traded up to get someone. Ireland was a bit worse in that regard, but Grier also has some well established history of it now: he also had a lot more top end picks to use, courtesy of the tanking year and the Tunsil bounty. He doesn't have that this time, even though there are a lot of picks.

None of that fills me with confidence. We have massive holes in the roster at starting OL, DL, CB, S right now that I don't think will all be addressed in one draft. If Ramsey goes, it's even worse. That's just the starters, before we even start talking about depth.    
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2025, 10:40:45 am »

I obviously don't know the guy, but it seems like Grier's biggest strength is in getting along with people and not necessarily his judge of talent. He always says he does what the coach wants but he literally should be responsible for the choices he allows them to make. As the most senior executive in football operations, he is responsible for everything and everyone under him.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2025, 09:38:48 pm »

Thankfully, Grier has picked conservatively to start with. I think we got a solid pick in Grant at 13, and it was a huge need to find someone to be upfront with Sieler on the DL.

Hopefully that's our long term Christian Wilkins replacement.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2025, 09:59:46 pm »

All 3 teams that I was following went with D-line. SF went with DE Mykel Williams, which is fine...a little earlier than I thought, nut as long as it was line, then OK. Then Miami went with DT Grant, which I think is an excellent move. Then the local AZ Cardinals went with DT Walter Nolan.

So far, so good. Now both SF and Miami need to get some good O-line value tomorrow.

Shock of the draft so far... either Tyler Booker  going to Dallas at #12. Love the player, but I saw him going much later... Or Colston Loveland being the first TE taken, ahead of Tyler Warren.

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2025, 10:14:06 pm »

All 3 teams that I was following went with D-line. SF went with DE Mykel Williams, which is fine...a little earlier than I thought, nut as long as it was line, then OK. Then Miami went with DT Grant, which I think is an excellent move. Then the local AZ Cardinals went with DT Walter Nolan.

So far, so good. Now both SF and Miami need to get some good O-line value tomorrow.

Shock of the draft so far... either Tyler Booker  going to Dallas at #12. Love the player, but I saw him going much later... Or Colston Loveland being the first TE taken, ahead of Tyler Warren.

Offensive linemen have been disappearing as a premium all night... the top tackles including Banks went way before our pick, Booker is gone, and now so is Zabel.

If we stayed at 13, we just had to pick Grant. It was either that or one of the CB options, or Starks. It was the best option of all of them.

 
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2025, 10:20:41 pm »


^^^ Not "all the top tackles" are gone. The OT I think will end up being the best from this class is Josh Simmons from OSU.

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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2025, 10:39:02 pm »

^^^ Not "all the top tackles" are gone. The OT I think will end up being the best from this class is Josh Simmons from OSU.

Let's see if he gets past Houston. There have been a few mocks that have predicted that's where he will land.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2025, 11:12:43 pm »

Grant reminds me a bit of Tim Bowens.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2025, 11:14:24 pm »

The Dolphins have the opportunity to draft the 2nd or 3rd best O-lineman in the draft and they better do it!

So much for believing in mock drafts, most I saw had one or two linemen going before Miami's pick, not four.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2025, 11:48:47 pm »

Let's see if he gets past Houston. There have been a few mocks that have predicted that's where he will land.

Another one gone - Josh Simmons is off to to KC now. Donovan Jackson gone earlier to the Vikings. Prospects from all over the OL have been popular picks in the first round.

Will Johnson slipped completely out of the first round, after at least two corners have been picked ahead of him - those must be some huge red flags hanging over his head.
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« Reply #26 on: Today at 01:05:18 am »

I'm fine with the Grant pick.  MIA got lucky with Campbell last year, and there was definitely a hole left next to Sieler.

Tomorrow it's more about what I don't want to see.  I do not want to see the Dolphins draft any of the following positions:

QB RB WR TE EDGE

This team has too many holes to be greedy.  Go buck wild with best player available on day 3, I don't care.  But tomorrow I'd like to see at least one OL for sure, and either a DB or a second OL.
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« Reply #27 on: Today at 04:13:07 am »

I'm fine with the Grant pick.  MIA got lucky with Campbell last year, and there was definitely a hole left next to Sieler.

Tomorrow it's more about what I don't want to see.  I do not want to see the Dolphins draft any of the following positions:

QB RB WR TE EDGE

This team has too many holes to be greedy.  Go buck wild with best player available on day 3, I don't care.  But tomorrow I'd like to see at least one OL for sure, and either a DB or a second OL.

I'm not confident we're going to find an OL starter to replace Eichenberg this season by the time we get to our pick in the second round. There are six teams ahead of Sunstoke's Niners who need OL help, and then the Colts between them and us. So after eight OL players have already been taken in round 1, we still have eight teams ahead of us to pick over what's left, and that talent pool is rapidly shrinking.

It looks to be a lot better news at CB which at the moment seems pretty deep for rounds 2 & 3 as Sunstroke said earlier. After that though, we're probably looking at project players and depth.
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