Charlie Kirk assassinated

[Sibster]

So his parents are to blame for Charlie being dead? I know that's not what you said, but let's be clear, Charlie's dead because a young kid had easy access to a gun, found out Charlie was coming to his college, got on a roof, pointed the gun at Charlie and pulled the trigger. 

Why would you even think his parents are to blame?    The suspect is 22 years old and unless he either has a felony conviction or a restraining order against him, he can legally purchase and access a firearm.   

[Pappy13]

Why would you even think his parents are to blame?

I don't, but people often look for someone or something to blame when just as often as not, there's really noone and nothing to blame, just some stupid act of violence.

The suspect is 22 years old and unless he either has a felony conviction or a restraining order against him, he can legally purchase and access a firearm.  

And if there were background checks in place, maybe he wouldn't have been able to legally own a gun. In this case nothing probably would have prevented him from owning a gun, but I'd still rather have the laws in place rather than what we have now. There's no harm in having some laws that restrict who can lawfully own a gun. The ones that are in place now are inadequate.

[Spider-Dan]

His parents definitely had a hand in making sure this young man was trained to effectively use this weapon of war.  No private citizen needs to be able to kill someone at 200 yards in self defense.  And Charlie Kirk would have desperately fought any attempt to ensure that Tyler Robinson did not have access to or training with the weapon that was used in Kirk's murder.

Oops, I'd better be careful...

[Phishfan]

I don't know if this guy was a hunting background but being able to shoot at 200 yards for that is very plausible. It really isn't that difficult anyway for a recreational shooter. I have hit a 20 ounce soda bottle at 100 yards with an open site.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

What sort of sick psychopath would celebrate a cold blooded murder?

The sort of person who would say things like:
"I don't care that he's dead."
"He's not a hero."
"He's a scumbag."
"He shouldn't be celebrated"?

Charlie Kirk was this sort of person. Talking about the murder of George Floyd.

[Spider-Dan]

I don't know if this guy was a hunting background but being able to shoot at 200 yards for that is very plausible. It really isn't that difficult anyway for a recreational shooter.

No one needs a weapon that can kill at 200 yards "for self defense."  That was my point.

[Sibster]

I don't know if this guy was a hunting background but being able to shoot at 200 yards for that is very plausible. It really isn't that difficult anyway for a recreational shooter. I have hit a 20 ounce soda bottle at 100 yards with an open site.

I've done the same thing.

What sort of sick psychopath would celebrate a cold blooded murder?

The sort of person who would say things like:
"I don't care that he's dead."
"He's not a hero."
"He's a scumbag."
"He shouldn't be celebrated"?

Charlie Kirk was this sort of person. Talking about the murder of George Floyd.

The crazy thing about the George Floyd story is that when the court pronounced Derrick Chauvin guilty, he immediately turned around and put his hands behind his back.   Had George Floyd done the same thing when told to do so, then this wouldn't even be a story.  Because he'd still be alive today.

[Spider-Dan]

And had Charlie Kirk not taken up a career radicalizing young people with lies, he'd still be alive today.

See, blaming murder victims can go both ways.

[Phishfan]

No one needs a weapon that can kill at 200 yards "for self defense."  That was my point.

 And your point means what exactly? I don't see why self defense is even in the discussion. Is it that the type of firearm should be banned?

[Spider-Dan]

Yes.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I've done the same thing.

The crazy thing about the George Floyd story is that when the court pronounced Derrick Chauvin guilty, he immediately turned around and put his hands behind his back.   Had George Floyd done the same thing when told to do so, then this wouldn't even be a story.  Because he'd still be alive today.

Not sorry to let the facts get in the way of your fictionalized version of events but Floyd was in handcuffs when Chauvin murdered him. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

In my town the police station and fire department are next door to each other.  The police department's flag is at full mast, the fire department at half staff. 

[pondwater]

I've done the same thing.

The crazy thing about the George Floyd story is that when the court pronounced Derrick Chauvin guilty, he immediately turned around and put his hands behind his back.   Had George Floyd done the same thing when told to do so, then this wouldn't even be a story.  Because he'd still be alive today.

You know you're just spinning your wheels here don't you? I did it for years and there's just no point other than to state your opinion and go about your business. "Most" of the people you're arguing with on this site are radical leftists and just want to argue because they need the supply whether it's positive or negative.

And had Charlie Kirk not taken up a career radicalizing young people with lies, he'd still be alive today.

That's hilarious coming from a self described "radical leftist" LMFAO. What age were you when you began being radicalized? Before this happened I didn't even know who Charlie Kirk was. But after watching some of his stuff, you seem to be immensely more radical in your views. Looks like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

And your point means what exactly? I don't see why self defense is even in the discussion. Is it that the type of firearm should be banned?

Yes.

LOL, 1st they want to ban "assault weapons", which might I add is a made up political term that targest mostly cosmetic features for some reason. Now they want to ban a bolt action rifle designed 127 years ago. The goal posts move as much as their lack of emotional control. Fortunatley, we have a constitution and SCOTUS in place to protect the rights of the law abiding citizens.

Anyhow, hope everyone is doing well. And remember all you have is time and it's probably a not good idea to waste a lot of if it aguing with people you disagree with. You'll never change their mind and you'll never get your time back.

[Phishfan]

Yes.

It is a hunting rifle. Just get to the point and say you would prefer all guns be banned.

[Sibster]

Not sorry to let the facts get in the way of your fictionalized version of events but Floyd was in handcuffs when Chauvin murdered him. 

The bottom line is this.  If you are stopped by an officer, do what they say.   It makes things much easier.   If Floyd had followed instructions, then it would've never gotten to the point where Chauvin put a knee on his neck.