Charlie Kirk assassinated

[Pappy13]

The bottom line is this.  If you are stopped by an officer, do what they say.

That's only true up to a point. If an officer is telling you to do something that's clearly not within his rights to tell you to do (which we know has happened many times by reviewing footage of officers own body cam) you have every right to refuse. I'm not saying that has anything to do with George Floyd, I don't really know that much about the case, the officers might have been completely within their rights while putting him in handcuffs. Putting a knee on his neck while in handcuffs clearly crossed the line though regardless of what Floyd was doing at the time.

Cops can be wrong too and if history is any judge they often overstep their own boundaries. They are not allowed to use force to get you to comply if the request is not lawful and even if the request is lawful, using force should be a last resort and only enough force to get you to comply and nothing else.

[Spider-Dan]

It is a hunting rifle. Just get to the point and say you would prefer all guns be banned.

I think there is some room for some forms of shotguns with short-range ammo that won't go through the wall of your house and kill your neighbor's kid, nor will they be able to snipe someone from a rooftop hundreds of yards away.

But ultimately, if the US joined the rest of the developed world and banned (nearly) all guns, I'd be happy with that, too.  People in Canada seem to survive just fine without a full arsenal at their command.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The bottom line is this.  If you are stopped by an officer, do what they say.   It makes things much easier.   If Floyd had followed instructions, then it would've never gotten to the point where Chauvin put a knee on his neck.

There is zero evidence to support that statement. 

[Sibster]

There is zero evidence to support that statement. 

There's plenty of evidence.  It's called common sense.   You don't get violent with police officers and they won't be violent with you.

[Spider-Dan]

There's plenty of evidence.  It's called common sense.   You don't get violent with police officers and they won't be violent with you.

Philando Castile
Tamir Rice
John Crawford III
etc.

Again, it is incredibly poetic that those who are wringing their hands and clutching their pearls about leftists insisting Charlie Kirk deserved to be murdered are happy to matter-of-factly state that George Floyd is responsible for his own murder.  Charlie Kirk himself said this.

[Sibster]

Philando Castile
Tamir Rice
John Crawford III
etc.

Again, it is incredibly poetic that those who are wringing their hands and clutching their pearls about leftists insisting Charlie Kirk deserved to be murdered are happy to matter-of-factly state that George Floyd is responsible for his own murder.  Charlie Kirk himself said this.

Philando Castile- Had a gun in the car and the officer thought he was reaching for it.

Tamir Rice- Waved a realistic looking toy airsoft gun at the officer

John Crawford III- Was brandishing a BB gun at customers in a WalMart.   

Unfortunate cases for all three, but again, common sense comes into play here.   If you brandish a weapon or something that resembles a weapon at a police officer, you are going to get shot.

[Spider-Dan]

So if the police think you have a weapon (even if you don't), your life is forfeit.
"common sense"

George Floyd's murderer was convicted of murder and you're still happily defending his killing.
If anyone on the left defended Tyler Robinson the way you're defending Derek Chauvin, you would be throwing a fit.  This is how we know all the conservative crocodile tears about "disgusting leftists outrageously praising Charlie Kirk's murder" are entirely hollow; you aren't even shy about insisting that George Floyd deserved to be murdered.

[Sibster]

So if the police think you have a weapon (even if you don't), your life is forfeit.
"common sense"

George Floyd's murderer was convicted of murder and you're still happily defending his killing.
If anyone on the left defended Tyler Robinson the way you're defending Derek Chauvin, you would be throwing a fit.  This is how we know all the conservative crocodile tears about "disgusting leftists outrageously praising Charlie Kirk's murder" are entirely hollow; you aren't even shy about insisting that George Floyd deserved to be murdered.

All three of the guys you mentioned had weapons.   And all three happened to be unfortunate accidents that could've been avoided with common sense.   You're comparing that to a malicious cold blooded murder. 

We are not the same.

[Spider-Dan]

Are you, a Second Amendment fan, saying that merely holding something that looks like a gun is enough cause to be executed?  That no one with common sense would be armed in public?  Give me a break.  None of these individuals ever pointed a gun at the police, or anything like it.  The mere fact that they might have had a gun (two of them did not, and the third was following instructions to produce his license) is a death sentence in your "common sense" world.

You're comparing that to a malicious cold blooded murder.

Let me guess: the "malicious cold blooded murder" you are referring to is NOT the one where a handcuffed and fully restrained man was slowly and intentionally suffocated to death on camera.
You are absolutely fine with THAT malicious cold-blooded murder.

[Downunder Dolphan]

It looks like Jimmy Kimmel got cancelled over 'insensitive' Charlie Kirk comments.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-18/jimmy-kimmel-live-cancelled-indefinitely/105787192

[Sunstroke]

Charlie Kirk was all about supporting freedom of speech...and anyone who says otherwise IS FIRED!

[Sibster]

Are you, a Second Amendment fan, saying that merely holding something that looks like a gun is enough cause to be executed?  That no one with common sense would be armed in public?  Give me a break.  None of these individuals ever pointed a gun at the police, or anything like it.  The mere fact that they might have had a gun (two of them did not, and the third was following instructions to produce his license) is a death sentence in your "common sense" world.

Common sense says to keep your hands where the officer can see them.   If you have something that looks like a gun, don't be waving it around or brandishing it at others. 

Let me guess: the "malicious cold blooded murder" you are referring to is NOT the one where a handcuffed and fully restrained man was slowly and intentionally suffocated to death on camera.
You are absolutely fine with THAT malicious cold-blooded murder.

Now you're just being snarky.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Are we still talking about Charlie Kirk?  If he was only a second grader we would have sent out thoughts and prayers and moved on my now. 

[Sunstroke]

I think there is some room for some forms of shotguns with short-range ammo that won't go through the wall of your house and kill your neighbor's kid, nor will they be able to snipe someone from a rooftop hundreds of yards away.

I tend to agree with you on gun control to a point, but...reading your posts, I have to ask. Have you ever gone hunting? Took a .22 out plinking targets in the woods? Just curious...

[Spider-Dan]

No, but I do own a compound bow that I've used at an archery range.