Charlie Kirk assassinated

[Fau Teixeira]

Looks like they caught the shooter.

22 year old white male Utah state student who's dad is a 27 year sheriff's deputy and registered republican. Who got a rifle as a birthday gift at 16.

While you can't blindly assume motive based on demographics, this has the hallmark of trumpy on trumpy violence. That'll mess up the narrative that the shooter was an illegal immigrant atheist trans antifa member.

[Sibster]

Looks like they caught the shooter.

22 year old white male Utah state student who's dad is a 27 year sheriff's deputy and registered republican. Who got a rifle as a birthday gift at 16.

While you can't blindly assume motive based on demographics, this has the hallmark of trumpy on trumpy violence. That'll mess up the narrative that the shooter was an illegal immigrant atheist trans antifa member.

Or it could be he was rebelling against his dad and everything his dad stood for.   Teens and young adults tend to do that more often these days.

[Dave Gray]

Before we get ahead of ourselves, I don't think it's all that helpful to try to paint the shooter as their guy or our guy.  It isn't likely to work that way.  These are radicalized weirdos who are likely not going to follow a specific ideology and are going to have their own thing going on.  There may be some intersecting ideas and they may use some political talking point as justification, but something in them was bubbling up.

[Spider-Dan]

Apparently the shooter is one of the Nick Fuentes-aligned Groyper movement, who hate Kirk because they think he's a fake conservative who supports The Jew (i.e. Israel).  In other words, Kirk was killed by someone who believed he wasn't far enough to the right.

So now we're going to hear a lot less about the vile Democrats who basically put a hit out on Kirk with their inflammatory rhetoric and more about this troubled lone wolf who was obviously mentally ill.

This story has lost its propaganda value for Republicans and will be out of the news in a week.

[Sunstroke]

I pray you're right...getting tired of my MAGA family members screaming like it was a roving band of trannies that took out Charlie...and now they're coming for the rest of us God-fearing 'Mericans.

[Spider-Dan]

And here we go:




It's full-on Thoughts & Prayers time, people!
Now that it looks like Charlie Kirk was killed because he wasn't fascist enough for today's Republican base, there are going to be some hard pivots from the spicy takes of yesterday.  Utah Governor Spencer Cox (R) was visibly devastated that he couldn't blame this on an immigrant, despite his fervent prayers for it to be so.

But in times of crisis and strife, a troubled nation looks to its resolute leader, who boldly stands tall and, with a stiff upper lip, tells them:
"I couldn't care less."

[Sibster]

I was right.  He was going against everything his dad stood for.

https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1966612995691151543?s=19

[Spider-Dan]

According to Fox News, Tyler Robinson was in a relationship with a transgender woman.

So I imagine we've seen the last of the "soft focus" stories and it's going to be crackdown on transgenders time (despite the fact that it wasn't a transgender person who shot him).

[Sibster]

According to Fox News, Tyler Robinson was in a relationship with a transgender woman.

So I imagine we've seen the last of the "soft focus" stories and it's going to be crackdown on transgenders time (despite the fact that it wasn't a transgender person who shot him).

I'll tell you what kind of crackdown is going on.   A crackdown on celebrating and glorifying this type of behavior.   I'm seeing reports left and right of people all over the country losing their jobs  because they posted something on social media celebrating Kirk's assassination.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^^^

I'm shocked and appalled that you actually think his death is ok.   Or that it's ok for someone to be killed because their political ideology is different from yours.

From my limited time on this board, I figured you were a leftist piece of shit.   Now I know for certain you are.   

How is quoting the deceased disrespectful?  At every funeral and memorial service I have ever attended included quotes from the decreased. It is perfectly respectful to quote Kirk's position on gun and political violence.

[Spider-Dan]

I'll tell you what kind of crackdown is going on.   A crackdown on celebrating and glorifying this type of behavior.   I'm seeing reports left and right of people all over the country losing their jobs  because they posted something on social media celebrating Kirk's assassination.

You mean a crackdown on what is called "free speech" when conservatives do it.

Again, Charlie Kirk and the rest of the right didn't lose their jobs when they suggested that the violent home invasion at Nancy Pelosi's house was perpetrated by a jilted gay lover.

[Sibster]

You mean a crackdown on what is called "free speech" when conservatives do it.

Again, Charlie Kirk and the rest of the right didn't lose their jobs when they suggested that the violent home invasion at Nancy Pelosi's house was perpetrated by a jilted gay lover.

Free speech only protects you from the government coming after you.   It doesn't protect you from other consequences.   Same with free expression. 

[Spider-Dan]

You're specifically talking about the First Amendment, not "free speech."  And this is how I know:

House Probes Spotify Over Censorship After “Disinformation” Controversies
Federal Trade Commission Launches Inquiry on Tech Censorship
Gina Carano rejoices over win for free speech as Disney settles Mandalorian firing with groveling statement
Google Accused of Shadow Banning Christian and Conservative Content

Spotify is not "the government."
Disney is not "the government."
Facebook, Google, and Twitter are not "the government."
Yet conservatives whine incessantly about their free speech rights being violated if they get kicked off of a tech platform just for saying Jews are subhuman.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Free speech only protects you from the government coming after you.   It doesn't protect you from other consequences.   Same with free expression. 

True.  But people are getting fired from government jobs for pointing out the irony of Kirk getting shot while giving a speech advocating unfettered gun access.

[Pappy13]

Or it could be he was rebelling against his dad and everything his dad stood for.   Teens and young adults tend to do that more often these days.

So his parents are to blame for Charlie being dead? I know that's not what you said, but let's be clear, Charlie's dead because a young kid had easy access to a gun, found out Charlie was coming to his college, got on a roof, pointed the gun at Charlie and pulled the trigger. That's about as much as we know about the shooter, the rest is speculation. I'm just surprised that no one has said it's video games that killed Charlie....yet.

Charlie on the other hand has a long history of making enemies. No one deserves what Charlie got, but even Charlie knew that people are inevitably going to die when everyone has easy access to weapons. He said it was necessary to keep his 2nd amendment rights. He knew exactly what could happen to him and he was ok with it. You either agree with that thinking or it's a tragedy that he's dead, but you can't believe both.