Mexican restaurant chain closing down due to ICE raids

[Sibster]

Looks like this isn't the only one.  And notice it's been happening more often in the border states (Arizona, New Mexico, California and Texas).   Here's a tip.   Don't employ illegals and you won't have to worry about being short staffed due to ICE raids.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/17-old-mexican-chain-closes-003700975.html

[Dave Gray]

This immigration policy is both cruel and economically stupid.

We are hurting people and going to end up spending way more money, while having places close down.

It's a disaster.

[CF DolFan]

This immigration policy is both cruel and economically stupid.

We are hurting people and going to end up spending way more money, while having places close down.

It's a disaster.

I don't think its the disaster the extreme left thinks it is. Every single president and many top leaders have said they would do this if elected but never did. Obama, Clinton and wife, Biden, Bushes, etc are all on video saying this. If it wasn't Trump and extreme liberals trying to stop them they would be celebrated. We've gotten to this point because no one would ever actually do it. There is no sense in trying to establish a better system of citizenship until you get all those who circumvented the process in the first place. Rewarding illegals only encourages others to do the same nad it pisses off those who did it the right way. 

[Sunstroke]

There's the right way to do things, and there is the wrong way.

ICE is wrong...in pretty much every way.

[Spider-Dan]

Every single president and many top leaders have said they would do this if elected but never did. Obama, Clinton and wife, Biden, Bushes, etc are all on video saying this.

1) False.  None of them are on video promising MASS DEPORTATION NOW, or Muslim bans, or saying immigrants are from "shithole countries," or any of the many other racist and xenophobic positions Trump regularly serves up.
2) Even if were true, "promising" to do something and actually doing it are two very different things!
For example, Trump promised to make Mexico pay for the wall, and to end the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, and to lower the cost of groceries immediately, and to bring Epstein's collaborators to justice, and he hasn't done any of it!

If it wasn't Trump and extreme liberals trying to stop them they would be celebrated.

If you seriously think that Democrats would celebrate a masked goon squad snatching people off the street explicitly because of their race - but only if it were Kamala Harris ordering it - you are hopelessly lost in the Fox News koolaid; one small step from "White people are the only remaining victims of racism in this country."

[CF DolFan]

1) False.  None of them are on video promising MASS DEPORTATION NOW, or Muslim bans, or saying immigrants are from "shithole countries," or any of the many other racist and xenophobic positions Trump regularly serves up.

That's exactly what I said. Yep, you got me. Hahaha BTW ... with all the crap Trump does and says why do you make stuff up? He never issued a Muslim ban ... ever. It was a country ban. In fact he is in favor of allowing a Muslim country to build an Air force base here in Idaho.

2) Even if were true, "promising" to do something and actually doing it are two very different things!

I completly get it. If you support them it doesn't matter whaty they say.

[Dave Gray]

He never issued a Muslim ban ... ever. It was a country ban.

This is bullshit.

He issued bans to only countries that were predominantly Muslim and it was colloquially called "The Muslim Ban".

Here is his direct quote:

"a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."



Immigration cannot go unchecked.  You need a border that it's secure.  However, immigration, as a concept is a US strength.  It makes our country better, cheaper, and more economically viable.  This policy is mean, cruel, racist towards non-white immigrants, and it's economically stupid and you're going to get hurt in the wallet because of it.  And the services you receive will suffer.  Good luck

[CF DolFan]

LMAO ... so you're saying they were asking religions at customs? Thaty just silly. It's no secret terrorist countries tend to be Muslim and almost any country sending terrorists to the US are Muslim. We didn't ban peaceful Muslim countries so those Muslims were free to move about just like the rest of the civilized world.

I get liberal views although I don't agree with many as I used to be liberal myself. What I can never understand is the mindset that we have to be politically correct regardless of the detriment of society that Muslim. Even mor if you're gay. It says in the Koran either you follow Allah or you die with the rest of the infedels.   

[Spider-Dan]

He never issued a Muslim ban ... ever.

Trump explicitly campaigned on a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.

When asked how it would work, he said the following:

"They would say: 'Are you Muslim?'" Trump said.
"And if they said, 'yes,' they would not be allowed in the country?" Geist asked.
"That's correct," Trump said.

After he later reframed his Muslim ban as a "territory ban," he was asked if this was a rollback of the Muslim ban, to which he said:

"I actually don't think it's a rollback. In fact, you could say it's an expansion. I'm looking now at territory. People were so upset when I used the word Muslim. Oh, you can't use the word Muslim. Remember this. And I'm okay with that because I'm talking territory instead of Muslim," he said.

Trump later went to Rudy Giuliani and asked him to put together a commission to figure out a way to legally enact a Muslim ban.

Trump unquestionably promised a Muslim ban, and enacted it under a paper-thin pretense of being a "territory ban."  It is no different than the Jim Crow voting laws that didn't ban voting based on race - heavens no! - but instead required you to jump through a bunch of ridiculous hoops in order to vote, but only if you didn't have a grandfather that voted before 1860.  Which has nothing to do with "race," my friend!

LMAO ... so you're saying they were asking religions at customs? Thaty just silly.

That was literally the plan Trump campaigned on!
Of course, like the wall that Mexico is paying for, that was just another lie.

[CF DolFan]

In other news of Democrats being Trump ... here is Biden calling for us to go directly after the Narco terrorists and tsake them ourt before they get here.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lNWgZImWuD0?si=JPhQc7ObQDQQMCYA

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

In other news of Democrats being Trump ... here is Biden calling for us to go directly after the Narco terrorists and tsake them ourt before they get here.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lNWgZImWuD0?si=JPhQc7ObQDQQMCYA

Yes, calling for an international cooperation in tackling drug trafficking is the EXACT SAME THING as changing our policy from incepting, boarding and searching suspected drug boats followed by arresting people if drugs are found and releasing those people who don't have drugs to blow up any ship suspected of carrying drugs and shooting any survivors in the water and losing absolutely all of our international cooperation. 

[Dave Gray]

I'm not arguing in bad faith anymore.  It was my resolution years ago and I've stuck with it, which is why I haven't really argued on this board as much in the last several years.

But everyone knows that fighting the drug was doesn't mean blowing up boats without proper process.  This is just killing people.  They may be drug dealers.  They may not. They may not be bringing the drugs to the US in the first place.  Who knows.  This is just murdering people and it goes against what I fundamentally believe.

Trump just calls things other things and he thinks that allows him to break the law.  Drug traffickers are not terrorists.  Drugs are not weapons of mass destruction.

In theory, I wouldn't be upset if a president, in good faith, blew up a boat coming to the US that had an atomic weapon on it.  That's not what this is.

Everything he does is bad.  It's like he's trying to destroy the country, but in reality, he just doesn't care -- he doesn't care the cost -- power and control.  About 65% and growing have figured that out, but we still have a ways to go and then you can pretend you never supported him and that you're a good Christian who loves your neighbor.

[CF DolFan]

I'm not arguing in bad faith anymore.  It was my resolution years ago and I've stuck with it, which is why I haven't really argued on this board as much in the last several years.

But everyone knows that fighting the drug was doesn't mean blowing up boats without proper process.  This is just killing people.  They may be drug dealers.  They may not. They may not be bringing the drugs to the US in the first place.  Who knows.  This is just murdering people and it goes against what I fundamentally believe.

Trump just calls things other things and he thinks that allows him to break the law.  Drug traffickers are not terrorists.  Drugs are not weapons of mass destruction.

In theory, I wouldn't be upset if a president, in good faith, blew up a boat coming to the US that had an atomic weapon on it.  That's not what this is.

Everything he does is bad.  It's like he's trying to destroy the country, but in reality, he just doesn't care -- he doesn't care the cost -- power and control.  About 65% and growing have figured that out, but we still have a ways to go and then you can pretend you never supported him and that you're a good Christian who loves your neighbor.

That's just it. Everything he does isn't bad. Being a Christian means selecting a president that best aligns with your values. We aren't ever going to get a respected Pastor elected. No one looks to Trump for Christian values and some of the Christians he surrounds himself with are not resepected by much of the Christian community. I can guarantee you many, if not most, Christians were looking to others prior to Trump winning the Republican nomination. 

According to AI ...
"Provisional data from the CDC suggests approximately 76,500 total drug overdose deaths occurred in the 12-month period ending in April 2025."

I have to ask, if any other group of people were responsible for 76,500 American deaths in one year would you not want them eradicated? Personally, I think all drug dealers are terrorists if they are dealing things like opioids and crack. They are killing people.

[Fau Teixeira]

How many of those 76,500 are directly or indirectly because of prescription drugs?

I'd wager it's way more than half.

The real mass murderers in this country are the Sackler family.

[Dave Gray]

Being a Christian means selecting a president that best aligns with your values.

And you have.  Well done.