Should Tua stay or should he go?

[Sibster]

Yeah, didn't think they had the balls to do it. Signing Malik is a big time gamble. If it pays off it will have been worth it, but if not in 3 years Miami is right back where they are at now and we are all saying this whole thing was a complete waste of time. Basically they have put all their eggs in Malik Willis' basket. I would have preferred they took the long term approach and just started from the ground up to build the roster and then tried to find their future QB in the draft somewhere along the way, but that would have been a 3 year process and I didn't think Ross nor the new front office were willing to do that. At best Willis is a stop gap in my humble opinion.

Maybe we are due for some luck? One can always dream.

I've told you before.   Ross is a clown owner.   You ask him to make you a cup of coffee and he'll find a way to fuck it up.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

$20M/yr for a QB is almost the floor for any veteran.

Atlanta just signed a veteran QB with considerably more experience than Malik for the league min salary.  ($1.215 million)

[Spider-Dan]

Even if Willis is a top 5 QB in the league the next 2 years, he'll have no team around him and we'll have 7 or 8 wins and going nowhere fast. I would have rather seen Ewers in there and go 4-13 or something and draft your QB next year where you get a salary break for 4 years on your QB.

With Ewers, MIA is flirting with going winless.  Willis is at least better than that.

[masterfins]

$20M/yr for a QB is almost the floor for any veteran.
Running Ewers out there is basically trying to go winless.  When you have a 3rd-day-draft QB that gets it it is apparent immediately; see Tom Brady or Brock Purdy.
Ewers ain't it.

Technically Willis is a "veteran", but 6 starts does not qualify him to get veteran QB money.  He's not worth half that!

[CF DolFan]

With Ewers, MIA is flirting with going winless.  Willis is at least better than that.

That would be horrible. Hopefully we go 8-9 and get to draft in the middle of the field again. Worse yet ... we will likely win 5-6 games and just be out of the top QB selection.

[masterfins]

That would be horrible. Hopefully we go 8-9 and get to draft in the middle of the field again. Worse yet ... we will likely win 5-6 games and just be out of the top QB selection.

lol, I've looked at Miami's 2026 schedule and I see two wins; the Raiders and a split of the Jets games.  Maybe a 3rd win if they catch a game where the other team plays terrible.  Miami will be in an optimal spot to draft a QB, but just like Grier the new GB office duo will say Willis deserves another season.   Miami history just repeats itself.

[Sibster]

lol, I've looked at Miami's 2026 schedule and I see two wins; the Raiders and a split of the Jets games.  Maybe a 3rd win if they catch a game where the other team plays terrible.  Miami will be in an optimal spot to draft a QB, but just like Grier the new GB office duo will say Willis deserves another season.   Miami history just repeats itself.

Don't discount the Raiders just yet.   They traded Maxx Crosby and picked up Baltimore's first this year and next.   That gives them three of the first 35 selections in the draft. Then they signed Tyler Linderblum to anchor their O-Line.   They take Mendoza and #1 and a stud left tackle at #14, then a guy like Omar Cooper in the second round, they could become a playoff team next year.   

Tom Brady is running the show there now.   He knows how to build a winner.  He has seen it done many times.

[Pappy13]

With Ewers, MIA is flirting with going winless.  Willis is at least better than that.

Ewers wasn't costing us $45M against the cap. Willis better be a HELL of a lot better than just better than Ewers. If he's just better than Ewers, he's not worth it, not even close. He'd have to be top 5 in the league in 2 years for this to make sense. We had to gut the roster to make room for him on the roster and we're not done yet, they are going to have to make some more roster moves to fit him on the roster and that's carrying both Chubb and Tua's contracts over to next year. Prepare to see extensions for a number of players. You didn't have to do that with Ewers at QB. I'm not looking at just the QB position, I'm looking at the entire roster and the salary cap and saying this move doesn't make sense.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ewers wasn't costing us $45M against the cap. Willis better be a HELL of a lot better than just better than Ewers. If he's just better than Ewers, he's not worth it, not even close. We had to gut the roster to make room for him on the roster and we're not done yet, they are going to have to make some more roster moves to fit him on the roster and that's carrying both Chubb and Tua's contracts over to next year. Prepare to see extensions for a number of players. You didn't have to do that with Ewers at QB. I'm not looking at just the QB position, I'm looking at the entire roster and the salary cap and saying this move doesn't make sense.

That is my thinking.  Willis > Ewers probably.  Ewers plus 22 million invested in improving the online >>>>>> Willis.  Dolphins could go winless, but that is because the entire team is is decimated.  QB position was not the weakest link, you improve the team by improving the weakest link.  The Dolphins improved the a position of relative strength. 

[Spider-Dan]

That would be horrible. Hopefully we go 8-9 and get to draft in the middle of the field again. Worse yet ... we will likely win 5-6 games and just be out of the top QB selection.

If only the Dolphins truly stunk it up and got the #1 pick to use on drafting a QB!
Then they might have a chance at all the championships that Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Jameis Winston, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Matt Stafford, JaMarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, David Carr, and Michael Vick have brought this century to the teams that drafted them.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If only the Dolphins truly stunk it up and got the #1 pick to use on drafting a QB!
Then they might have a chance at all the championships that Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Jameis Winston, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Matt Stafford, JaMarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, David Carr, and Michael Vick have brought this century to the teams that drafted them.

Having a higher pick doesn't guarantee a better player.  But in general the better players get picked earlier.  The Dolphins should try to improve their team.  But QB wasn't the biggest hole.  And any improvement should be done with the mindset of not just winning an extra game or two in 2026 but what will make the team better in 2027 and 2028. 

Willis is a project player.  He might work out, he might not.  No real difference between him and Ewers.  But if Willis doesn't work out you wasted $45 million a better plan would have been to use a second day pick on a QB and let him compete with Ewers for the job.  If neither work out use a top 5 pick in the 2027 draft on a QB. 

Also by paying Willis all this money you virtually eliminate any chance of discovering Ewers or a late round pick is actually any good.  There won't be a real camp competition. Unless another guy is miles ahead of Willis, Willis is going to get the job.  If you had Ewers, a third round pick and two UDFAs you could real competition and potentially find a diamond in the rough. 

Plus you need to fix the oline before investing in a QB, because without an oline you risk losing whatever you invest in the QB to IR. 

[Spider-Dan]

Having a higher pick doesn't guarantee a better player.  But in general the better players get picked earlier. [...]

Willis is a project player.  He might work out, he might not.  No real difference between him and Ewers.

Malik Willis was drafted in the third round (pick 86).  Quinn Ewers was drafted in the 7th round (pick 231).

Also by paying Willis all this money you virtually eliminate any chance of discovering Ewers or a late round pick is actually any good.

Ewers started 3 games last year for the Dolphins - two of which were against non-playoff teams - and did not impress.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Malik Willis was drafted in the third round (pick 86).  Quinn Ewers was drafted in the 7th round (pick 231).
Ewers started 3 games last year for the Dolphins - two of which were against non-playoff teams - and did not impress.

Ewers has played a total of three games.  That is not enough to know he sucks.  He was more impressive in his first three games than P Manning was in his first three games.

Willis has played in a total of six games.  They weren't any more impressive then Ewers.  It isn't enough to know he is good, not enough to know he sucks either.   

[Spider-Dan]

Peyton Manning was a #1 overall pick who had already showed sufficient promise in college to earn a couple of seasons to prove himself in the pros.
Ewers barely even got drafted and has much less slack.

Willis has played in a total of six games.  They weren't any more impressive then Ewers.  It isn't enough to know he is good, not enough to know he sucks either.

In Willis' 3 games in GB, he has a passer rating of 134.6, with an average of 324 yards/2 TDs/0 INTs per game.
This is significantly more impressive than what Ewers has shown in Miami.

Now, did Willis suck in TEN?  Sure, and he wouldn't be getting $20M/year if that was the last thing he put on tape.  Similarly, if Ewers has a breakout performance over his next three games, we can talk about him as a comparable prospect.  But right now, they are not even close to each other.