Trump sucks

[Dave Gray]

We don't even talk about it anymore on here, but every single aspect of everything he's doing is fucking awful in every respect.

I am so beaten down that I used to come on here and talk politics every day (I still do it in my personal life with my friends and family) but I just don't have the stomach to argue with people who think that any of this is good.

But there comes a point where I feel like I need to check in with the Trump faithful.  War, tariffs, absolute corruption, anti-democracy at every turn.  Sound off if you have something to say, I guess.

[CF DolFan]

We don't even talk about it anymore on here, but every single aspect of everything he's doing is fucking awful in every respect.

I am so beaten down that I used to come on here and talk politics every day (I still do it in my personal life with my friends and family) but I just don't have the stomach to argue with people who think that any of this is good.

But there comes a point where I feel like I need to check in with the Trump faithful.  War, tariffs, absolute corruption, anti-democracy at every turn.  Sound off if you have something to say, I guess.

I get the war and tarrifs but can you please give me examples of "absolute corruption, anti-democracy at every turn". Seems pretty vague to ask for the other point of view.

[Dave Gray]

He is actively and regularly committing corruption, market manipulation, and enriching himself and his family and his allies by getting a taste of deals -- he is actively getting bribes and everything with these crypto scams and various grifts and things he's selling.  There are too many to innumerate.  Along with this, he's using the government for his personal vendettas that are going after his crimes.  He fired everyone involved in the various investigations, for example.  He is also personally going after them with the DOJ with unwarranted claims of criminal acts, which is costing them money and time to defend, despite being baseless.

He's the most corrupt president we've ever had, by a long shot.  And it's just out in the open, but there's nobody willing to check him because he has cronies at every position.

[Spider-Dan]

You're wasting your time, Dave.  I try to have this discussion with my dad and he just goes on about "Biden's autopen" and "Hunter Biden's laptop" like it's all the same thing.  He has literally told me that he believes Trump "is the smartest president ever" because of "how easily he handles all of his opposition."  They are a cult; everything they accused us of about "worshipping Obama" is not only true for Trump, but 10x worse.  

(Relatedly: my dad does not have cable TV and yet has watched so many Fox News clips on YouTube that his plasma television has the Fox News logo burned into the screen.)

[pondwater]

It's all the same cycle depending on which side you're on. Back and forth, year after year, decade after decade. No matter what anyone here says the swinging pendelum is going to continue swinging back and forth. Just like every other average everyday nobody, I have no control over the any of it. So I made the choice not to worry about it too much anymore. Modern day politics is like professional wrestling

[Spider-Dan]

This sort of high-minded "Like the tides, politics are an irresistible cyclical force beyond the control of mere peons like you and I"-type discourse from conservatives like yourself would have been a welcome change during, say, 2021-2024.

[Dave Gray]

Trump is a different animal.  He's tearing down American democracy.  We will probably survive it because he's stepped in it so bad between ICE, tariffs, Iran, and Epstein -- but this isn't the normal ebb and flow of politics.

Both sides-ng is such cowardly bullshit and a way not to take responsibility for where we are.

[Pappy13]

This latest Trump fiasco with Iran and gas prices going through the roof might be the final nail in Trumps coffin. I think you are going to see more republicans willing to break ranks with Trump over the next couple of years. His time is coming to a close and I think even he knows it as he seems even more willing than before to move away from republican values. Some from within his own party are going to start calling him out, perhaps even Fox news. Don't get me wrong, most are going to be loyal to Trump to the bitter end, but it's the guy on the fence that he's going to lose if he hasn't already.

[Sunstroke]

I'm completely convinced that Trump is not going to allow free midterm elections.

I hope I'm wrong, but Trump is currently the greatest evil facing humanity, and evil doesn't like giving up power.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I'm completely convinced that Trump is not going to allow free midterm elections.

That ship has sailed.  There won't be fair and free midterm elections.  The real question is has Trump fucked everything so bad that even with unfair elections can he be defeated. 

[pondwater]

Both sides-ng is such cowardly bullshit and a way not to take responsibility for where we are.

Projection much? You say that because you can't see anything but what you want to see. While I can admit that Republicans AND Democrats are the problem. You only see Republicans as the problem. And that my friend, is the real cowardly bullshit.

In reality the politicians are to blame for the current situations in the US and world. And moving forward, that will continue to be the status quo. Just like it has been since before I was born. And nothing is going to change it. Your emotions are being manipulated and you don't even know it. Anyhow, I have a life to enjoy and that's my ultimate goal. If you want to spend your life trying to empty the ocean with a bucket, then best of luck to you.

[Spider-Dan]

Dude, you went from "Democrats are the problem" to "Both Democrats and Republicans are the problem."  This does not make you a Brave Truth Teller; it just means that even when Republicans are clearly the ones with total control and they're screwing everything up, you still need to cling to blaming the Democrats.

[pondwater]

Dude, you went from "Democrats are the problem" to "Both Democrats and Republicans are the problem."  This does not make you a Brave Truth Teller; it just means that even when Republicans are clearly the ones with total control and they're screwing everything up, you still need to cling to blaming the Democrats.

Typical predictable reply, yawn......

[Spider-Dan]

You say that like anyone is shocked to see a conservative say "Don't forget to blame the Democrats too."

[Dave Gray]

The Democrats are feckless, but this isn't shared fuckery.  All of the grifting and tariffs and warring and economic shitstorm and anti-scientific garbage is coming from the one party that controls all levers of government.  The Democrats used some pronouns in their twitter bio.  It's not a both-sides thing.

Historically, if you want to blame corporate Dems, sure -- but right now, for the last ten years, this isn't a shared responsibility.