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« on: February 27, 2006, 03:23:48 pm »

Can you think of political/moral subjects which have more than just two viewpoints, other than just religion? For example:

1. Abortion is Wrong
2. Abortion is ok in some circumstances
3. Abortions should be Legal
4. I eat babies


Surely not everything is broken down into left v right, right?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 03:27:34 pm »

Almost everything has more than one position. For example, while I never supported the current war (I did support the first Iraq war and Afghanistan) I heard a man of TV a couple weeks ago so opposed to any war that he made the statement that the Untied States should not have any form of military.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 03:30:00 pm »

What about "Abortion should be the woman's choice but I wouldn't do it"?
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 03:43:35 pm »


I've never seen option #4 available when this debate has popped up, or I likely would have been more politically outspoken.


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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 03:45:45 pm »

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I heard a man of TV a couple weeks ago so opposed to any war that he made the statement that the United States should not have any form of military.

I heard of this guy!!  He's the first man to ever get a negative score on an IQ test...
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 03:46:07 pm »

Abortion is wrong
Abortion is right
Abortion is ok if Laura Bush gets gang raped and becomes pregnant
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006, 03:57:04 pm »

^^ hahaha...  so true.  just like cheney and his lesbo daughter.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2006, 04:02:53 pm »

What about Drug Use?

- Absolutely illegal.
- Absolutely legal.
- Only legal for medical use.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2006, 04:05:38 pm »

What about Prostitution?

-Legal

-Illegal

-Ok, if you haven't had pussy since pussy had you. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2006, 04:10:24 pm »

What about every issue ever discussed?
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2006, 04:12:08 pm »

What about Prostitution?

-Legal

-Illegal

-Ok, if you haven't had pussy since pussy had you. Grin

I'm going to steal that last line...I can't say I've ever heard abstinence phrased quite so eloquently.  Grin



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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2006, 04:12:49 pm »

OK...  This is kind of going in the wrong direction.  I know that everything is NOT black and white.  This is what I want to uncover. My question isn't about abortion specifically.  That was just used as an example b/c it was the first subject that popped in my head that there are more than two points of view openly discussed about when the subject comes up. 

To clarify, I'll restate my question: What OTHER political based subjects have more than two regularly argued viewpoints in the media, courts, or your own friendly discussions that you can think of?

Below is another I came up with.

Death Penalty:

1. Bad because killing is bad
2. Bad because the process kills potentially innocent people
3. Good because crime in and of itself has to be punished
4. Good because it's a strong deterrent

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This post excludes Dave Gray's comment.  He's going in the right direction.
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2006, 04:29:35 pm »

Death Penalty

I'm not sure if this really qualifies.  I think that this is one of the few cases where there are really only 2 mainstream viewpoints.

1) Allowing the government to carry out death sentences.
2) Disallowing it.

I mean, you may have people who are against it for: racist reasons, the possibility of killing innocents, cost effectiveness, etc....but they are all against it.  Unless people that share viewpoints for different reasons counts as a third stance.
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2006, 04:38:42 pm »

I'm going to steal that last line...I can't say I've ever heard abstinence phrased quite so eloquently.  Grin





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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2006, 04:57:38 pm »

An important thing to remember is whether or not one believes in objective value. In other words, is there a real right and wrong. Is there more to this universe than causality. Usually this view is also the theistic one, but doesn't necessarily have to be. If there is this "objective value" if there is a "right and wrong" then it just comes down to the best thinkers proving things one way or another based off of ethics derived from those values...

If there isn't a right and wrong though, well, then, there's no use even talking about it. It's personal perception and nothing more. That means that most controversies, even the things you and I believe in most deeply and passionately, are meaningless.

So you have a choice, accept that values exist, and then realize that how you live your life and what you believe has some merit and value (and I would say, infinite merit and value) or, suffocate in subjectivity.
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