Female teacher sleeps with 14 year old...

[Buddhagirl]

The only reason that there is a double standard is because men like you won't stand up against it.

Nice to know that if your 14 year old boys were getting RAPED by their teacher - the person you're supposed to trust - you guys would all applaud it. I suppose that if the teacher isn't what you guys consider hot, you'll want charges pressed.

Good job guys.  Keep doing your job making sure the double standard is there.  Consider your work done for the week.  Take some time off. I'm sure it's tiring being male chauvinist pigs.

[Denver_Bronco]

The only reason that there is a double standard is because men like you won't stand up against it.

Nice to know that if your 14 year old boys were getting RAPED by their teacher - the person you're supposed to trust - you guys would all applaud it. I suppose that if the teacher isn't what you guys consider hot, you'll want charges pressed.

Good job guys.  Keep doing your job making sure the double standard is there.  Consider your work done for the week.  Take some time off. I'm sure it's tiring being male chauvinist pigs.

Just doing out part baby. Glad we could help.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

The only reason that there is a double standard is because men like you won't stand up against it.

Nice to know that if your 14 year old boys were getting RAPED by their teacher - the person you're supposed to trust - you guys would all applaud it. I suppose that if the teacher isn't what you guys consider hot, you'll want charges pressed.

Good job guys.  Keep doing your job making sure the double standard is there.  Consider your work done for the week.  Take some time off. I'm sure it's tiring being male chauvinist pigs.

Unfortunately, that's how it is in today's American society.  I'm sure that boy enjoyed it as much as I would've if I were him...... and didn't want to see his teacher get in trouble. 

Girls CAN be accused of raping boys, but this is very infrequent.  Why?  Boys tend to enjoy it. 

[Thundergod]

Just doing out part baby. Glad we could help.

Ditto.   

[Spider-Dan]

The only reason that there is a double standard is because men like you won't stand up against it.

As I said, I think it's pretty silly to try to pretend that the same standards should always apply.  Sometimes double standards are quite reasonable; men and women aren't the same.

Nice to know that if your 14 year old boys were getting RAPED by their teacher - the person you're supposed to trust - you guys would all applaud it. I suppose that if the teacher isn't what you guys consider hot, you'll want charges pressed.

If you're asking me if I would feel "violated" if my son were having sex with his hot 24-year-old teacher, I wouldn't.  The immediate emotion that comes to mind would be "proud".  That being said, if my son were actually raped by his teacher (read: forced to have sex against his will), it would be a totally different discussion.  But assuming that that isn't the case, my overriding concern would be whether or not he used protection.

I would compare it to having a son (of legal age) who is bringing home a different girl every week, and a daughter (of legal age) who is bringing home a different guy every week.  One of these things will be praised, and one will be condemned.  The reason why is because one of them is difficult to accomplish, and the other is not.

The double standard is in place because it deserves to be in place.

[ADeadSmitty]

I would compare it to having a son (of legal age) who is bringing home a different girl every week, and a daughter (of legal age) who is bringing home a different guy every week.  One of these things will be praised, and one will be condemned.  The reason why is because one of them is difficult to accomplish, and the other is not.

The double standard is in place because it deserves to be in place.

Do you think that double standard also deserves to be in place?

[MaineDolFan]

Nice to know that if your 14 year old boys were getting RAPED by their teacher - the person you're supposed to trust - you guys would all applaud it. I suppose that if the teacher isn't what you guys consider hot, you'll want charges pressed.

You've got to love the stance that just because of the age difference it was "rape."  Rape is sex against someone's will, age does not define that term.  The kid was all for it, it wasn't against his will.

The "he was too young to know what he was doing" fight does not apply here.  You are not a man, Buddha.  Guys are looking at Playboy by the age of 12 and masturbating earlier than that - praying for any chance for something in the same zip code as sex.  Sex for a young man and sex for a young woman are completely different.

So because I'm not willing to toss around a word like rape incorrectly, I'm a pig?

[Spider-Dan]

Do you think that double standard also deserves to be in place?

Yes.  Because one of those things is a challenging task, and the other requires practically no effort at all.

Maybe in a different world where females were as sexually aggressive as males, we wouldn't need to have a double standard.  But in this one, we do.  That's why a 24-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old girl (even if both consent) is a heinous act and the girl deserves sympathy and pity for being manipulated (and will be ridiculed by her peers for being a slut), while the opposite is a lucky, skilled boy that's the envy of all his peers.

[MaineDolFan]

So Spider - you're agreeing with me, but calling me a pig?  Confused.

[Phishfan]

You've got to love the stance that just because of the age difference it was "rape."  Rape is sex against someone's will, age does not define that term.  The kid was all for it, it wasn't against his will.

The "he was too young to know what he was doing" fight does not apply here.  You are not a man, Buddha.  Guys are looking at Playboy by the age of 12 and masturbating earlier than that - praying for any chance for something in the same zip code as sex.  Sex for a young man and sex for a young woman are completely different.

So because I'm not willing to toss around a word like rape incorrectly, I'm a pig?

Actually it is rape. It is called statutory rape.

[MaineDolFan]

Hey - imagine this - we're off topic.  If we want to define legal terms, start a thread for it.

The question, and it was for guys - was simple:  at 14 years of age, would have it have ruined your emotional development by sleeping with your 24 year old teacher?

I'm not asking if it's wrong, what society deems to be right and morally just.  I am asking the males on this board if this action would have made you view authority figures differently, changed the way you trust, perhaps created a misogynistic view point of women and altered your ability to have healthy relationships?

THAT is the question.  Topic.  Stay on it, thanks.

In our society, right or wrong, women and men are set upon us as pieces of meat.  Look no further than FHM, Maxim, Playboy or even Cosmo, Redbook...movies are sold on sex appeal.  Boys grow up stealing looks at Sears catalogs, Playboy magazines, the cool friend that knows where his dad's porn stash is - it's no wonder that it would be different for a young male.  I want to know your opinion if this happened to YOU.  I don't care if people feel it's morally or legally wrong, I can make that determination all on my own.

[ADeadSmitty]

You've got to love the stance that just because of the age difference it was "rape."  Rape is sex against someone's will, age does not define that term.

Actually, an age difference alone does make some sexual encounters rape.  For example, Maine calls rape "gross sexual assault", and considers sex with someone who submitted under compulsion and sex with someone under 14 the same crime. 17-A M.R.S.A. § 253(1).

Here's the text:

"1. A person is guilty of gross sexual assault if that person engages in a sexual act with another person and:

A. The other person submits as a result of compulsion, as defined in section 251, subsection 1, paragraph E. Violation of this paragraph is a Class A crime;

B. The other person, not the actor's spouse, has not in fact attained the age of 14 years. Violation of this paragraph is a Class A crime"

EDIT: Didn't see your reply before I posted, but take it easy Maine. If anyone put us on the topic of defining rape, you did.

[Spider-Dan]

So Spider - you're agreeing with me, but calling me a pig?  Confused.

I have yet to address or reply to any of your statements.

[MaineDolFan]

EDIT: Didn't see your reply before I posted, but take it easy Maine. If anyone put us on the topic of defining rape, you did.

No, I stated that I don't appreciate being called a pig by a woman that has never met me - simply for soliciting an opinion on something she could never understand.  Sorry Buddha, but you aren't male.  The question I am asking you are not qualified to answer.  Laws are written in black and white, without much room for muddy areas.  The law you outlined was not written with this particular situation in mind, and I don't care to discuss the legal, moral or ethical ramifications of the actions.  I'm asking people (guys) how this would alter their upbringing in a society that already puts wrong expectations on women and how they view their bodies.

Again, topic.  Let's try to stay on it.  I know that is really hard on these boards, but maybe we could try?

[Brian Fein]

So Spider - you're agreeing with me, but calling me a pig?  Confused.

I think BuddhaGirl called everyone a pig, not Spider-Dan.