Barry Bonds' Rookie Card

[YoFuggedaboutit]

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Hilarious!!!!!

[Dphins4me]

Disagree.  I find it in poor taste.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Disagree.  I find it in poor taste.

And I don't give a flying fuck how poor that taste is.  This guy is a juicer, plain and simple.  He's about to break one of baseball's most hallowed records, and the majority of sports fans feel he doesn't deserve it.  Hammerin Hank worked very hard to set that record.  I'd hate to see it get broken by a cheater.    He deserves whatever he gets. 

I'm just brutally honest and tell it like it is. 

[jtex316]

He's about to break one of baseball's most hallowed records, and the majority of sports fans feel he doesn't deserve it.

Two things:

1. He's a good 40+ HR's away from breaking that record.  He may not get there!
2. I'm sure Bonds coulnd't give 1 shit about the majority of fans who feel as if he didn't deserve it.  Not the same situation, but the majority of fans didn't want Roger Maris to break Babe Ruth's record either, so much in fact that baseball attached a stupid asterisk next to his record for 30 years.

[Dphins4me]

And I don't give a flying fuck how poor that taste is.  This guy is a juicer, plain and simple.  He's about to break one of baseball's most hallowed records, and the majority of sports fans feel he doesn't deserve it.  Hammerin Hank worked very hard to set that record.  I'd hate to see it get broken by a cheater.    He deserves whatever he gets. 

I'm just brutally honest and tell it like it is. 

Poor taste in using someone starving as the butt of your joke, I guess you never thought about that or cared as to why I thought it was in poor taste.

I do not give a flying flip about Bonds.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Not the same situation, but the majority of fans didn't want Roger Maris to break Babe Ruth's record either, so much in fact that baseball attached a stupid asterisk next to his record for 30 years.

Did Maris use 'roids?  No, he worked hard to get that single-season record.  He did it naturally and he did it fair and square.  Only to see it broken three times by juicers. 

[Dave Gray]

Why is everyone picking on Bonds?  Everyone was on roids at the time.  Baseball is to blame...not Bonds.  They turned a blind eye to it, because Barry and Sosa were lifting their sport again.

[Phishfan]

Agreed Dave. Baseball caused this mess going all the way to the candy bowls filled with uppers during the '70s. I don't like Bonds, but it is because he is a prick.

Baseball's integrity went out the window years ago.

[Denver_Bronco]

I will pick on Bonds constantly and anyone else who refuses to admit their guilt. He is scum. Look at Jason Giambi as an example. That is a man who stepped up and admitted his guilt and he is still loved.

[Phishfan]

Good point Denver. Another good example is Conseco. Now that his stories are vidicated he is looked at more favorably than he was when his book came out.

On the flip side McGwire was a beloved athlete until that "testimony". Honesty is all these guys need in order to gain redemption from most of America.

[Dave Gray]

Conseco took a HUGE AMOUNT of crap from members on this board.  They called him a money grubbing, sellout, backstabber.  He helped bring out the problem into the limelight.

I think that there are tons of guys who don't admit it, but the media isn't all over them because they aren't chasing a home-run record.  Barry is a liar just like the rest of baseball.  The worst thing about Barry is that he's so good, that all eyes are on him.

Baseball screwed up by allowing this kind of thing to happen.  It's not Barry's cross to bear.  We all know he did it (and everyone else), but he never got caught.  ...so baseball just has to deal with their tarnished history, because they allowed it to happen.

[EDGECRUSHER]

If another player soon gets close to 61 Homeruns, I think you will see a media fury and the reaction will be like he IS the new HR king. I would like that as long it's from a guy who no one really looks at and says "Juice".

[Dphins4me]

On the flip side McGwire was a beloved athlete until that "testimony". Honesty is all these guys need in order to gain redemption from most of America.

Mac was in a no win situation.  Most have already came to the conclusion he used, so let suppose he didn't.  What good would it have done to say he didn't?   Would it have change the people who believe he used minds?  No.
Why would he admit to usage if he really didn't?  So the best play if he didn't use was to not address it.

We already know he used Andro which is the closes thing to a roid without being one, so why should we question if he used anything else?  The usage of Andro is enough to muscle him up.  I want to add Andro was perfectly legal supplement then.   

 Just look a Sammy. In those same hearing ( Which were nothing but Gov camera seeking, but that's another thread )  He flat out said he did not use.  How many believed him?  Same would have been the same with Mac, so why even address it?

The only thing they could have said was "I used" in order to make most of the public happy.

Frankly I believe Mac until proven otherwise.   I know he used Andro & I know the affects of Andro.

To be honest, I really do not care if these guys used.  If they are willing to risk their life for a few more Hrs, then why should I care?

[Dphins4me]

Why is everyone picking on Bonds?  Everyone was on roids at the time.  Baseball is to blame...not Bonds.  They turned a blind eye to it, because Barry and Sosa were lifting their sport again.

They turned a blind eye, because fans were not showing up.  It was 4 years after the '94 strike & fans were still staying away. 

Mac & Sammy put people back in the seats.  Baseball cashed in.

Frankly, I cannot believe fans actually go to baseball games & with the prices they want, but a duck & his money will soon part.

[ADeadSmitty]

It's not Barry's cross to bear.  We all know he did it (and everyone else), but he never got caught.  ...so baseball just has to deal with their tarnished history, because they allowed it to happen.

Sure Bonds was caught. He was accused in a grand jury of having taken steroids. A book just came out detailing Bonds' steroid use very carefully. Everyone in their right minds, as you point out, knows he did it. So how was he not caught?