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Some of these guys should definitely be on the Dolphins radar.  Who would you like to see the Dolphins pick up and why? 
Nnamdi Asomugha- CB Oakland

Antonio Bryant- WR Tampa Bay

Jordan Gross- OT Carolina

Albert Haynesworth- DT Tennessee

TJ Houshmandzadeh- WR Cincinnati

Brandon Jacobs- RB NY Giants

Jermaine Phillips- SS Tampa Bay

Darren Sproles- RB San Diego

Of all those players, I would love to see Asomugha the most in teal/orange. A true shut-down corner. It would address a major need of our team.

Will get franchised or a new contract.


Will get franchised or a new contract.


The Bucs have Piscitelli waiting to step in, so if the Bucs can't reach a deal with Phillips, I think he's gone. I.e. they probably won't franchise him.


I'd rather see Jacobs here than Sproles. A huge bruising back with good speed...

^ they don't need to spend money on another rb

Phillips has a lot of upside and downside

upside: veteran who plays at a high level...brings the wood to WR going over the middle

downside:  Often injured...doesn't wrap up on his tackles because he's always looking for that "big hit"...I think we could do without him


Of course any of us would love to have him on our team...but I have to agree with Tommy that it isn't likely


It would be nice to have him, but it isn't a need for us...there are a ton of late round DT in the draft that have his size and strength


Although not a need of ours, how sweet would it be to have Jacobs, Brown, and Ricky in the same backfield?  We will have the cap room for it, but I don't think it's likely.


I know this isn't a popular choice with most on this board, but I wouldn't be unhappy with Housh on the phins...The guy is only 31 and we could get at least 3-4 good years out of him before his skills start to go downhill...we wouldn't have to worry about a stud WR until next years draft, or if there is one in the late rounds this year, he could mentor under him like Willford was supposed to do this year.

last time i checked our starting dt is like 80 years old  ;D

additional starters for both sides of the line should be priority #1 with this team. after seeing the stable of linebackers that pitt rolls out, we could probably use some upgrades there too.

being able to physically dominate the line of scrimmage will put you in the top tier of teams in this league. peter king had this to say after the games this weekend:

"For years, Andy Reid and Tom Heckert have gotten razzed for taking so many offensive and defensive linemen high in drafts. Well, the strategy of loading up on the Big Uglies has won the Eagles a trip to the NFC Championship. Patterson and Bunkley, picked in the first round of the 2005 and '06 drafts, respectively, provided the bedrock for the Eagles' tremendous run-stopping in the fourth quarter, eliminating all chances of the Giants getting back in the game after falling behind 20-11."

Albert Haynesworth will not be franchised, according to Tennessee news sources..... he will, however, command big bucks on the open market.

Asomugha is good, but good teams don't overpay for corners.  Jacobs and Williams would look good in the backfield.  just have to find a suitor for Brown and his 9 million  dollar salary. 

  Crazy Al Davis will slap him with the franchise tag.


  Parcells was the one who sent Antonio Bryant packing during his days in Dallas.  I doubt he comes here.


  He will either get franchised or re-signed by the Panthers.


  A new contract is already in the works in Nashville.  I'm betting Haynesworth stays.


  32 years old, and probably looking for one last big payday.  The Dolphins are better off finding another youg WR late in the Draft.


  The Giants would be foolish to let him walk.  He'll be back in New York.


  The Dolphins will likely re-sign Yeremiah Bell, so Phillips is out of the equation.


  This regime traded away Lorenzo Booker.  Why would they sign a guy who is shorter than Booker was?

Here's an article that discusses more possible free agents for the Dolphins.  There are quite a few intriguing options out there.  I'm glad the Tuna is on this team.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/851999.html

 

Last thing we need is another Back right now........although Jacobs is a Tank.

Of that list if we had anyway of scoring Nnamdi Asomugha, I'd be all over that. But I doubt it will happen. Jordon Cross is another nice option, we had some injuries on the OT line , we can never have enough Talent there. 

Sproles/Jacobs would definitely be an upgrade over Patrick Cobbs/Ronnie Brown, but there are other areas of need that are more pressing. 

As for Asomugha, I can't see Al Davis the cheap ass franchising him. 

I love how you assume that, if we were to bring in another back, Ronnie Brown would be the one to go.  I'm certain they'd dismiss pothead long before they give up on their #2 overall pick. ::)

we're more than fine with the backs currently on the roster. an upgrade is needed on the interior of the o line in order to open up more space against the better d lines.

Buguh?  ???

The Al Davis that had 4 of the top 25 highest paid players in the NFL on his roster in 2008 (Still has 3) Traded for,then Paid a 7 year 70 million contract ($24.5 million guaranteed) to Deangelo Hall....Already used the exclusive franchise player on Nnamdi Asomugha last year....Al Davis the man that loves and values DB,s,Wr's,and QB's that can throw the Deep ball over anything else.....

I honestly don't see us going after Haynesworth,Tommie Harris,or Tank Johnson....Haynesworth can't be franchised,he had it written into his franchised contract last year,that he can't be franchised...I'm not sure if that includes any other tags....I Think Haynesworth too much $$$,and it would be hard to lure him t playing 3-4 NT...Tommie Harris is probably the same way...(He might get franchised)..Tank Johnson...I'm not sure if the front office would like to take on the guy with a past....Tank may want to go back to a 4-3 defense....

I think Dolfan619 pretty much had the right anlysis..

I like Housh, and think he's be good here.  He would be an immediate impact.

I want nothing to do with Jacobs on this team.  Our running problems are due to blocking, not the runners.

I don't know Asomugha that well, but if he's truly a great corner, I'd pay top dollar.  I think that's a position I'm willing to overpay for to lock down. 

And Hayneworth is a thug with mental problems, which turns me off.  ...but he's a great player.  There's a reason that the Titans aren't going to keep him around.  I bet he's a major distraction.  I think that we already have one thug on this team (Porter) and you don't want the foxes running the henhouse, so you might proceed with caution.

Honestly, Asomugha is the only guy on this list I'd be interested in, but I assume he's gonna have people lining up at his door to throw money at him. 

Judging by how quarterbacks basically haven't thrown a single pass his way all season, Asomugha is the only real shut down corner in the league. Of what little I've seen him play, I'd argue he's the best corner in the league.

I'd have NO problem if he came here for $10 mil a year.

One guy makes 1 million and one guy makes 9 million.  Ronnie brown is not 8 million better than ricky.  If you bring in Jacobs, you are going to have to get rid of some dead weight (hint brown).

Sigh...

Your information is incorrect. (Never trust the USA Today NFL Salary Database).

Ricky reworked his contract before the season, which included a per-game roster bonus of $93k for this year bringing his 2008 salary to $2.2 million. Ronnie received his year-4 roster bonus (typical rookie contract) this season, so that makes his salary for 2008 quite high (about $9 million, as you say).

Looking forward to next year, which is what's relevant considering that salary for this year has already been paid:

Ricky is scheduled to earn $3.3 million.
Ronnie is scheduled to earn $3.6 million.

Both become free agents after the 2009 season.

I also feel I should add that a players performance isn't the only thing that dictates monetary value. Perhaps the only player more likely than Ricky Williams to get kicked out of the NFL permanently is Adam Jones. Ricky is just a twitch away from being gone.

Updated contract source: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26664402/

Even if your ridiculous numbers were correct, Ronnie IS 8 million better than Ricky in that Ricky could be GONE at a second's notice.  Funny - we've been here before.  As a Dolphins' fan, you'd think you've learned that putting all your eggs in the Ricky Williams basket is a good way to end up with scrambled eggs.

Not even.  You can eat scrambled eggs.  You would more likely end up with egg on your face, to keep with the egg analogy ;D

To defend Ricky, I think that the concerns about him are now greatly diminished.  He's contributed for a full season, without incidents or getting a lot of media attention.  ...or getting injured.

I think this speaks to his character.  Sure, anything is possible, but I think that after having survived a full season under the new regime, that you can have more confidence in him.  He isn't the complete wildcard that he once was.

The chances that Ricky gets suspended and Ronnie has a career ending injury are about the same.  But, Ronnie isn't 8 million dollars better than any runningback in the NFL, so comparing him to ricky doesn't matter.

You seem to have skated nicely over the fact that the difference between Ricky and Ronnie next year will be $300k.

The $8M is EXTREMELY misleading, so stop spouting it. It just makes you look stupid. Rookie contracts almost always have a big bonus in year 3 or 4. Often it's even guaranteed, so cutting a player wouldn't even help.

It's like a player getting a big signing bonus and you say, well, he isn't worth $20 million this year, because, well, no one is worth $20 million. You have to look at the whole contract.

Anyway, since this was a discussion about who would get cut if someone like Jacobs was brought in, the two relevant numbers are $3.3M and $3.6M. Everything else is water under the bridge.

Brown will count for more than 3.6 million against the salary cap next year.

Who cares?  This isn't a Ronnie Brown thread, and we aren't getting rid of him, so knock it off already!

Firing him will only SAVE $3.6 million, just like firing Ricky will only SAVE $3.3 million.

In this case, the actual money these guys will be paid is exactly what you will save by firing them. Cap AND real money.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/17/is-peppers-done-in-carolina/ (http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/17/is-peppers-done-in-carolina/)


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Peppers ready to part with Panthers

Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Carolina Panthers, Julius Peppers

Any hope that Carolina had of signing Pro Bowl defensive end Julius Peppers to a long-term contract extension is being sacked.

Peppers’ agent, Carl Carey, said this weekend that his client will not sign a long-term deal with the Panthers this offseason — or ever – and that his client prefers to move on to a team for which he can make the leap from great player to elite one. The Panthers are aware of Peppers’ demands, and they want him to remain in Carolina for the remainder of his career.

Peppers’ contract expired after the 2008 season, and he is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent when the signing period opens Feb. 27.

“He feels strongly that he needs to make a change to make that leap,” Carey said of Peppers, who turns 29 on Sunday.

Peppers prefers to play with a new team, in a new city, perhaps one that uses a 3-4 scheme that would better serve his skills.

Now, part of the mystery surrounding Peppers’ future in Carolina has been solved: There does not seem to be much of one.

This leaves Carolina in a dilemma. It still can slap its franchise tag on Peppers, but there is a risk the defensive end will not sign it, and the Panthers will have $16.7 million counting against their salary cap. Plus, Panthers offensive tackle Jordan Gross also is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent, and Carolina cannot slap a franchise tag on both players.

It’s one or the other, and Peppers does not want to stay.



Hmm...I think Peppers would look good in aqua and orange...then we wouldn't have to worry about a pass rusher in the draft.

it would seem to be a good fit, but man how much is he going to command on the free market?

can you say $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you ask me, we need to pony up the big bucks for at least one big free agent this year and take care of the rest of our needs in the draft.  IMO it needs to be Peppers or Aso

Better article, IMHO:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80e2d282

He's going to command quite a lot of money, probably in the $40 million for 4 years with at least $10 million guaranteed. If we have a shot at someone like him, I think that's the price you pay (and enjoy paying).

The problem is that the Panthers can franchise him. Maybe throw a late draft pick at them in exchange of an amicable transition?

Doesn't Carolina play the 4-3?  If so, grabbing Peppers is a risk.

I think he'd do fine in a 3-4

According to the NFL.com / AP article I linked, he VERY MUCH wants to go to a 3-4 defense.

Considering his size and speed - and just his talent - I think he'd perform at least as well in a 3-4 as he has in Carolina's 4-3, if not better.

He'd be a HUGE steal for Miami.

You don't know that for sure.  Where would he fit in a 3-4?  Defensive end?  Pass rushing OLB opposite Joey Porter?  And how good would he do?  It might take him some time to learn the intricacies of a 3-4.

Seeing as how Matt Roth adjusted as quickly as he did, I don't think Peppers will have a problem

I agree. I like Peppers. He does alot for the community too, which is an added bonus. But, I want a game breaker type WR too.

I'm torn on the Peppers discussion... I don't think Miami is one stud away from being a SB contender right now, regardless of position, so I hate to see too much frivolous spending. That said, I really like Julius Peppers, and think he would have an extremely positive effect on the large number of young defensive players that will be on the roster when camp opens.

Aw what the hell, it isn't my wallet getting plundered... Let's sign him!! (assuming he isn't tagged)


Round two, pick #44... Hakeem Nicks. Every time I watch film of Nicks, my brain superimposes a Phins uniform on him.

He and Peppers are both North Carolina guys too...you know, in case you need any additional symmetry to set the image.

i agree... he is going to cost big time $$$$$$. but let's face it, in today's nfl, if you build a team with stud o and d lines you are going to have a shot to contend for a title.

Anyone notice Karlos Dansby,playing for the Cardinals....I think I'd rather have Dansby over Peppers...Yeah Peppers is the bigger name,but Dansby will 28 next year,and might come cheaper......Football futures has him listed as a free agent,and so does rotoworld.com.....