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Title: Referees this season.
Post by: Dave Gray on December 28, 2009, 03:45:18 pm
I don't know what it was, but I certainly found myself upset at the calls on the field this year, over every other year prior.  It seemed that the Dolphins were on the wrong side of an inordinate amount of questionable calls this year, particularly ones that were game-changing.

From outright WRONG calls (like the fumble against the Texans ruled an incomplete pass), to the technicalities (like Camarillo's unnecessary roughness on touching a downed man), to several big plays called back because of stuff that happened away from the ball -- I don't know if it's sloppy play on our team's part or if it's just bad reffing.

Very frustrating.  For being in so many close games, where one play makes the difference, it's magnified.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 28, 2009, 04:35:48 pm
Darren Sharper's not-a-touchdown touchdown
Camarillo's unnecessary roughness vs the Titans
TWO Questionable pass interference calls in the Jets (home) game
The "we blew the whistle too early" stripped ball fumble by Chris Johnson
Tripping call vs Polite on Ted Ginn's long TD vs Texans
Camarillo's out of bounds fumble called "delay of game" vs Saints
Phantom defensive holding call on Soliai vs Titans after a big 3rd down stop

There are more, I'm sure, but you're right.  It seems like every game I find myself feeling like we are getting screwed by the refs.  I don't like to complain about officiating, but it has become EVERY week...


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: dolphins4life on December 28, 2009, 04:46:20 pm
The thing is, in other seasons, they balanced out.

Like in 2008, when we won the Denver game on a ridiculous OPI call.

The NFL is rigged this year. 


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 28, 2009, 04:48:45 pm
I can only remember one call that went our way this season.  The play in the Bucs' game when the receiver went to the ground and the ball popped out and JT caught it and ran it in.  But even that they called back the TD cause they blew the whistle prematurely.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Frimp on December 28, 2009, 05:36:50 pm
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Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: dolphins4life on December 28, 2009, 05:48:50 pm
Aha, I got it!!  The SB is in Miami this year.  Therefore, the NFL doesn't want Miami to make the playoffs. 

I am convinced it is rigged.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: bsmooth on December 28, 2009, 06:56:23 pm
This thread is turning rather Ethusrstian with its conspiracy ramblings ;)


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: fyo on December 28, 2009, 07:16:40 pm
Camarillo's out of bounds fumble called "delay of game" vs Saints

Wasn't it an illegal forward pass?


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 10:14:09 pm
This thread is turning rather Ethusrstian with its conspiracy ramblings ;)

Hey bsmooth,

I did see some CIA agents huddling over with Gary Kubiak! ;D


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Frimp on December 28, 2009, 10:40:39 pm
Hey bsmooth,

I did see some CIA agents huddling over with Gary Kubiak! ;D

That was Ron Winter and his crew. ;)


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: bsmooth on December 29, 2009, 01:09:20 am
Hey bsmooth,

I did see some CIA agents huddling over with Gary Kubiak! ;D

They came in on the black helicopters ;)


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 29, 2009, 07:46:42 am
Someone needs to step up and start punching them in the face.  Same goes for those NBA refs.  Refs can be bought off.... Tim Donaghy proved that.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 29, 2009, 11:05:27 am
Aha, I got it!!  The SB is in Miami this year.  Therefore, the NFL doesn't want Miami to make the playoffs. 

This actually kinda sorta makes sense...


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on December 29, 2009, 11:08:55 am
Someone needs to step up and start punching them in the face.  Same goes for those NBA refs.  Refs can be bought off.... Tim Donaghy proved that.

When will you realize that violence is not the answer? In another thread, you said you punched your boss, and are no longer employed there. Not a surprise.

Why don't most people agree with you, and try to solve everything by fighting? I believe this quote from Joel McHale on Community (great show by the way) sums it up: For the same reason I floss, have a bed frame, and keep my guitar in its case. I'm over 23.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Doc-phin on December 29, 2009, 11:36:49 am
Aha, I got it!!  The SB is in Miami this year.  Therefore, the NFL doesn't want Miami to make the playoffs. 

I am convinced it is rigged.

I also agree this is an intersting thought. 

Refs definitely made some huge errant calls against us this year.  Would have been nice for them to at least own up and apologize.  At the same time, if we play more dominantly and aim to have a bigger score disparity it is less likely that these ref. mistakes would be so critical.  Part of the reason the calls were so huge was that we nearly always play a style of football that keeps the score close.


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 29, 2009, 11:39:08 am
Bottom line is good teams can rise above bad calls and still win.

The Dolphins aren't good enough right now to do that.  So, playing against a tough opponent and getting bad calls/unlucky bounces means you're probably gonna lose some games...

Maybe, someday, we'll be good enough to rise above it...


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: bsfins on December 29, 2009, 04:51:54 pm
^^^^WORD! x10


Title: Re: Referees this season.
Post by: Dave Gray on December 29, 2009, 04:56:00 pm
I think you're right, Brian.

I'm actually not BLAMING the refs and I don't think that there's any conspiracy or anything like that.  I actually think that the tripping call was correct (although unfortunate, and probably not caught/called most of the time).  I think that when you need everything for you to go right in an entire half of football, a bad call is going to get highlighted.  Since we put ourselves in crappy situations of falling behind or not putting the game away, we are forced to play close games that should be close, and bad calls shine.

Also, I think that desperate teams are seen as such and calls are made.  It's bad luck, but I've always said, you make your own luck.  There's a reason that Brady gets bullcrap calls -- he plays well enough normally that when something bad happens, refs assume that there must be a penalty.