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Seems like every time there is a single instance of foodstamps fraud or welfare fraud every Republican calls for the entire program to be cut.

I say lets shut down the entire military because of this. 

If we were going to do that, it would have happened while Bush was in office...

Sincerely,

A registered Republican

Replace 'obama' with 'limbaugh', 'anderson cooper' with 'sean hannity' and 'jon stewart' with 'alex jones' in your last sentence and you have my opinion of you.

as to the rest of your points .. put up some links .. references .. proof or anything at all other than blind copy-paste assertions and we can discuss the merits of any part of that .. with context and in depth .. you never know .. maybe i even agree with a few of them

You know how funny it is when the Obama people start spouting Bush this and Bush that, like it's supposed to hurt my feelings. Fuck Bush, he was an idiot. Make no mistake though, Obama is much worse. Bush was just a moron, Obama is the enemy of America.

Actually, if you believe it or not. I don't watch any of those people in question. I do watch comedy central in the afternoon and sometime John Stewart and that other idiot before him are on after Tosh. Don't really watch or pay attention though. Political propaganda disguised and promoted as a comedy show for the brain dead masses. Pretty clever, I give them that.

Links? Really? Haha, why don't you just go down the list and spin, discount, and make excuses for all of the lies and deceptions of Obama and his people. If he was proven a total failure at everything in life, you guys still would never admit it.

you'll never know until you put up more than blind assertions ..

you can come on here and rage about obama  .. .. but in the end your argument is worth exactly what you've put into it .. which isn't much .. until we discuss what specifically you believe and why you believe it .. then we won't have a basis for even a superficial conversation on the topics.

i'm certainly not gonna engage in a 'yes he did' .. 'no he didn't' conversation with you

So now, "The Lies of Obama", which have been documented on audio and video are blind assertions? Interesting ;)

Of course you're not. Since "yes he did" say and do all those things, there is no defense for his actions.  Although, I'm sure some will try, lol. Blind leading the blind.

Funny you say that. Obama just hit Bush's lowest approval rating.

More fun facts on Obama the Great

Obamanomics:
4.4% drop in household income.
2 mil. fewer jobs than 2007.
7.4% unemployed - twice that for minorities.
47 mil on food stamps & 16% in poverty - both records.
Huge Increase in Part time Jobs at the expense of full time jobs!
This is the Worst recovery since the Depression. From January 2009 to October 2013, more than 11 million people have dropped out of the labor force — from 80,507,000 to October’s 91,541,000. source B.L.S. (Bureau of labor statistics)

I guess if Obama drops another half a point, then that blows his post to shit, haha. Touché CF

Not even close?

Bush: 25% (http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx), (3 times, most recently Nov. 2008)
Obama: 43% (http://www.gallup.com/poll/165833/obama-image-strong-decisive-leader-takes-hit.aspx), (Nov 7-10, 2013)

Why are you comparing to 2007, and not 2009 when he took office?  Hmmm.

How many people were on food stamps and in poverty during the Great Depression?

(citation needed)

Probably because Obama was handed the worst recession since the Depression.

Gallup's Presidential Approval Polls for both Presidents, just so we all have access to the same facts.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

I also thought that was VERY, VERY strange.

i don't feel it's strange at all ..

pondwater wants to bash obama . .facts may not be on his side so he's got to manipulate his premises in order to make obama look bad .. not in the least strange when you have a pre-existing position and want to back it up

the problem with that is that now you have confirmation bias and you try to make the facts fit your narrative instead of making the narrative fit the facts

Honest mistake. I misquoted. The 39% percent he is at today is equal to Bush during the same of his

“President Obama’s job approval rating has fallen to the level of former President George W. Bush at the same period of his presidency,” Mr. Malloy added.

More insight on Obama's economic plan via Paul Krugman:
 
Horrifying failure? Say it ain't so, Bwahahahaha

^^^^^

The complete paragraph.


In an op-ed piece that denounces the republicans for blocking any and all recovery efforts by Obama. 

You must work for a news agency. This is what's wrong with those "reporting" events and quoting people. Why not include the entire context? He slammed the Republicans as being worse...

The democrats had the house and the senate and the republicans blocked them? Ummmm, OK.

Republicans being worse? No he said that "The Obama people are less wrong", which is far from being right. It still means that the democrats are wrong.  What do you expect a far left economist to say. Krugman, Just like the majority of zombies here, he would never actually come out and say it is Obama's fault. The last sentence sums up the whole article. He said that the economic policy since Obama took office has been an astonishing, horrifying failure. Obama is the president, so therefore it's his responsibility. It's so funny that everything was Bush's fault during his presidency and democrats in congress during his presidency never come up. Now fast forward to Obama's presidency and nothing is his fault. It's all the fault of the Republicans in congress. Oh, and Bush who hasn't been president in 5 years and counting. Amazing how some people are "perfect" and others are the cause of all the worlds ills.

It's just pure dishonesty ..  . .that's all it is .. pondwater is obviously coming on here and lying in order to make his point.

While i don't agree with what you're saying .. i'm not sitting here lying to your face in order to prove a point.

it would be very easy for any of us to do the same.


Have some decency will you .. when do childish lying games end and actual dialog begins?

I honestly don't follow this and have only heard the name Paul Krugman but no nothing about him. I just hate the pure lying that goes on when you chop a sentence in half to try and prove your point when in fact it has the opposite reaction when you provide the full sentence. I'm in the middle of the road, it's just beyond annoying when you act like the news networks and pick and choose sound bites.

I know not which lies you are referring to. However, I will repost some of Obama's lies below for your reading pleasure. Enjoy.

So much burn and truth in one post that it drives them crazy nuts insane, frothing with emotion. You are welcome to refute or discuss any of the above Obama lies. Or conversely, you can just spin his lies onto me and call me the liar. Your choice sir :-\

Add another lie to your ever-growing list.

There fixed it for you. Because I'm sure I've left quite a few off of the list I posted.

The Democrats took the house back from the Republicans in the 2006 election, when Bush's tenure as President was already 75% complete.  So what's the excuse, again?

And that, consequently, the Republicans are more wrong (read: worse).

If you don't trust his word, why are you quoting him?  Either his opinion is credible, or it is not.

No, that isn't what he said.  Nice try.

He said, "U.S. economic policy since Lehman has been an astonishing, horrifying failure."  You may recall that Lehman Brothers filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy in September of 2008.  I leave it to the reader as to who was president at that time.

Furthermore, when conservatives like yourself swiftly distance themselves from the policies of the Bush administration (e.g. Cheney's "Reagan proved deficits don't matter"), that doesn't mean they agree that the policies of the Democrats would have been better.  Similarly, when Krugman says that the U.S. policy has been a failure since 2008, that doesn't mean he thinks McCain or Romney would have been better.  It means he thinks that Obama has only been less wrong than the alternative, but that he still believes Obama has not been right.

I have a feeling that your only purpose on here is to troll this board .. you are being bombastic and irrational purely with that intent.

so carry on troll .. carry on

If you would rather discuss your opinion of me, maybe you should start a thread about me. I have set forth plenty of tidbits of information in this thread. Since you haven't discussed or refuted them, I will assume that they are true. Just like most blind homer Obama democrats, when facts slap you in the face, you just call names and get personal.

Every point you've brought up that wasn't a blatant lie or manipulated statistic out of context has been discussed and refuted.

Unfortunately, 99% of what you post falls under the heading of "blatant lie" or "manipulated statistic out of context, " so it doesn't take that much time to recognize your picture in the "Guide to Troll Recognition."

don't make an assumption that they're true .. realize instead that i don't lie on a message board so when i told you i'm not discussing unsubstantiated, unfounded assertions you just shat on here .. that means i'm not going to give them the time of day

mmmKAAY! 

I always wonder how much does one's life suck they spend almost their entire day pissed off with Obama and his supporters.  I mean, I understand disagreement but to the point of angry keyboard smashing rage? 

Angry? I think you're mistaken kid. You'll find the angry people avoiding the facts put in front of them and attacking me. Nothing gets to a democrat more than presenting them with facts that make their hero Obama look like the lying POS that he is. It seems that they ran off or neutered all of the republican/conservative members of this site. The ones that are left are so outnumbered that they are either scared to say anything or don't feel like being called names or ridiculed. So you see, I'm far from angry or mad. I actually feel sorry for democrats for having so much emotion with no substance or integrity to back it up. They have my pity, they're going to reap just what they sow.

Seems to me like you're more than angry and have an obsessive fixation with the president. 

Cool story bro, thanks for your totally irrelevant opinion of me. Do you have anything to add to the thread or would you rather do what democrats do best? Change the subject! Bwahahahaha

i find his opinion relevant  .. another fact you got wrong

While I'm flattered that you find me so important and relevant. maybe you should be more concerned with the relevant opinions of the American people regarding Obama.

http://news.yahoo.com/botched-aca-rollout-hammers-obama-job-disapproval-reaches-125618130--abc-news-politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/botched-aca-rollout-hammers-obama-job-disapproval-reaches-125618130--abc-news-politics.html)

A fact the majority of America is finally getting right after almost 5 years of your hero's failure in leadership presidency. You guys may have a surprise in the midterms. Then again, maybe not, ha ha

i've said it before .. i'm not for obamacare .. i think it was a needless bunch of concessions to republicans that they never decided to reciprocate .. it should have been a straight up single payer system all along.

so yet again .. another fact you get wrong.. it's just your MO i guess

Modus Operandi, or Moronic Obfuscation?

I guess either works...

Or Maybe Obama is still a lying POS. Either way, thanks for the support!

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