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Title: Philbin is gone Post by: Brian Fein on October 05, 2015, 11:54:30 am https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/651061865825607680
Sun Sentinel Dave Hyde confirmed Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Tenshot13 on October 05, 2015, 11:58:34 am SEE YA! I take it Coyle is next?
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: EDGECRUSHER on October 05, 2015, 12:02:51 pm If I weren't at work, I would post the "Happy Happy, Joy Joy" song from Ren & Stimpy.
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Brian Fein on October 05, 2015, 12:04:32 pm NBC is reporting that TE coach Dan Campbell will serve as interim head coach.
https://twitter.com/NBCSports/status/651064426745847808 Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: miamid45 on October 05, 2015, 12:05:33 pm Yes! Would be nice to see someone with some fire and passion!
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Dolphster on October 05, 2015, 12:11:03 pm Yes! Would be nice to see someone with some fire and passion! You beat me to it. I was just getting ready to say that it may not result in more wins, but it will at least be a refreshing change to see someone show a little fire on the sideline. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 12:18:20 pm Yes! Would be nice to see someone with some fire and passion! (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3309148/tony-sparano-fistpump-o.gif) Be careful what you wish for. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: hordman on October 05, 2015, 12:34:07 pm (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3309148/tony-sparano-fistpump-o.gif) Be careful what you wish for. Excellent point Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: hordman on October 05, 2015, 12:36:02 pm Lest we forget, Philbin was a good guy, though a lousy coach. He never seemed to bad mouth anyone or speak of ill others. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he was fired, but sometimes nice guys DO really finish last, especially in a business like the NFL.
Philbin, for his part, will be paid through next season even though he will not be coaching the Dolphins. Always classy in his time with Miami, he remained so in his statement. “I want to thank Steve Ross for allowing me the privilege to serve as the head coach of the Miami Dolphins," Philbin said. "This is a tremendous organization from top to bottom that has a talented and dedicated staff. I want to especially thank the players, coaches and football staff who have worked so unselfishly and represented the team with dignity and class. "I would be remiss if I didn’t thank the incredible fan base who has supported me and my family unconditionally since day one. It is my hope that the 2015 Miami Dolphins achieve great success both on and off the field." Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article37792785.html#storylink=cpy Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Dolphster on October 05, 2015, 12:43:03 pm (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3309148/tony-sparano-fistpump-o.gif) Be careful what you wish for. True. Passion and fire without the coaching skills to go with it won't take a team far. But neither will a blank look and unwillingness to give underachievers the kick in the ass that they need. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 12:49:26 pm Whatever criticism you want to give Philbin, being "unwilling to give underachievers a kick in the ass" shouldn't be one of them. He was perfectly willing to kick some of Miami's best skill position players in the ass... right out the door, even. He had no problem whatsoever kicking Marshall, Vontae, and Wallace in the ass.
Maybe had he chosen to, I don't know, actually try coaching them instead, he wouldn't have been escorted out of the facilities today. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Dave Gray on October 05, 2015, 12:50:51 pm At least Sparano was winning that game.
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Dolphster on October 05, 2015, 12:59:04 pm Whatever criticism you want to give Philbin, being "unwilling to give underachievers a kick in the ass" shouldn't be one of them. He was perfectly willing to kick some of Miami's best skill position players in the ass... right out the door, even. He had no problem whatsoever kicking Marshall, Vontae, and Wallace in the ass. Maybe had he chosen to, I don't know, actually try coaching them instead, he wouldn't have been escorted out of the facilities today. True. But I wasn't really referring to being willing to remove them from the team. I was referring more to the ability to light a fire under players and make them play with more passion. Of course there is always a fine line between playing with a fire and not just playing "aggressively stupid". There has to be that balance between finesse and physicality. It just seems that the team too often took on the stoic demeanor of their coach and played "flat". By no means am I saying that all the blame for the team's lack of performance falls on Philbin's shoulders. Far from it. The players still have to execute and Philbin hasn't missed a single tackle all year. ;D As the old saying goes, when a team is winning the coach is often given too much credit and when a team is losing the coach is often given too much blame. But right or wrong, the head coach is the one who is ultimately responsible and one of the first to get the ax when things are going badly. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Run Ricky Run on October 05, 2015, 01:11:05 pm Whatever criticism you want to give Philbin, being "unwilling to give underachievers a kick in the ass" shouldn't be one of them. He was perfectly willing to kick some of Miami's best skill position players in the ass... right out the door, even. He had no problem whatsoever kicking Marshall, Vontae, and Wallace in the ass. There was no benefit at all to trading Wallace. That's a great post. Maybe had he chosen to, I don't know, actually try coaching them instead, he wouldn't have been escorted out of the facilities today. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 01:14:15 pm Whatever criticism you want to give Philbin, being "unwilling to give underachievers a kick in the ass" shouldn't be one of them. He was perfectly willing to kick some of Miami's best skill position players in the ass... right out the door, even. He had no problem whatsoever kicking Marshall, Vontae, and Wallace in the ass. Maybe had he chosen to, I don't know, actually try coaching them instead, he wouldn't have been escorted out of the facilities today. The owner got rid of Marshall not Philbin, the other 2 you may have a point Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 01:25:43 pm The "owner" got rid of Marshall right after hiring Philbin? Since when did Ross start making decisions on player personnel?
I mean, if you wanted to blame that on Ireland, that would be a better scapegoat than Ross. But since Ireland is the one who traded for Marshall in the first place, that seems like a poor choice. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: pondwater on October 05, 2015, 01:26:56 pm At least Sparano was winning that game. Sparano - 29 W / 32 L / .475 win%Philbin - 24 W / 28 L / .462 win% Going by the numbers, Sparano was a better coach than Philbin. However, does the current team to have more talent than Sparano era teams? Judging from the expectations everyone had for the Dolphins this year, I would say this team has more talent. I guess that's subjective though. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 01:28:33 pm Sparano coached a 1-15 team to a division title.
Philbin collapsed with the playoffs on the line against inferior teams in two consecutive years. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 01:30:51 pm The "owner" got rid of Marshall right after hiring Philbin? Since when did Ross start making decisions on player personnel? I mean, if you wanted to blame that on Ireland, that would be a better scapegoat than Ross. But since Ireland is the one who traded for Marshall in the first place, that seems like a poor choice. Owner got rid of Marshall right after Marshall was arrested for like the 5th time since Ross bought the team. Ross made that call 100%, its documented. Ross even went on the radio the next day and said if Chicago didn't trade for him he was going to cut him. That move had nothing to do with Philibin and Ireland, Ross was embarrassed Marshall who was always getting arrested was on his team. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 01:31:14 pm Fun Fact: The Dolphins are taking their "TEAM PICTURE" today......LMAO!!
What a day to fire the head coach Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 01:40:18 pm Owner got rid of Marshall right after Marshall was arrested for like the 5th time since Ross bought the team. Ross made that call 100%, its documented. Link, please.The only thing I found was Ross telling some fan that Marshall would have been cut if he wasn't traded. I see no indication that Ross overruled Ireland and/or Philbin and demanded that Marshall go away. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 05, 2015, 02:02:30 pm Trivia question:
Name the last team that had two head coaches in the same season to go to the playoffs? Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 02:04:59 pm 2012 Colts.
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: mecadonzilla on October 05, 2015, 02:05:15 pm Trivia question: Name the last team that had two head coaches in the same season to go to the playoffs? 2012 colts with Pagano/Arians Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 02:06:38 pm Link, please. The only thing I found was Ross telling some fan that Marshall would have been cut if he wasn't traded. I see no indication that Ross overruled Ireland and/or Philbin and demanded that Marshall go away. Ross said it, believe what you want Spider. Your entitled to be wrong Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 05, 2015, 02:11:24 pm should have worded it differently to exclude a temp head coach while the coach was out sick......
When was the last time a coach got fired mid season and then the new coach took the team to the playoffs? (yes, it has happened) Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Sunstroke on October 05, 2015, 02:12:27 pm Ross said it, believe what you want Spider. Your entitled to be wrong Does that mean there are no links available? I didn't see any either on a cursory Google search. I'm perfectly willing to believe it, if I could just see it noted somewhere other than some random dude saying it on a Phins message board. And yes, yes, I know...if I don't take everything you say as gospel, I am perfectly entitled to be wrong, or blasphemous, or something else derogatory. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 02:47:38 pm Does that mean there are no links available? I didn't see any either on a cursory Google search. I'm perfectly willing to believe it, if I could just see it noted somewhere other than some random dude saying it on a Phins message board. And yes, yes, I know...if I don't take everything you say as gospel, I am perfectly entitled to be wrong, or blasphemous, or something else derogatory. It's true. It was reported at the time and I heard it and saw it reported at the time. I'm not gonna go on a google search for you. You can if you want. I don't care if you and Spider don't believe it and choose to be wrong on this issue. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Phishfan on October 05, 2015, 02:51:05 pm He did Google it and said he sees nothing to support your claim. At that point the onus is on you if you want them to believe what you say.
Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 02:53:39 pm He did Google it and said he sees nothing to support your claim. At that point the onus is on you if you want them to believe what you say. Not on me at all, as I am right and have the facts. Don't have to google to prove anything to you or anyone else. Don't believe me, believe what you want and be wrong. Ross stated he was gonna cut Marshall if they didn't trade him, that's a fact. Marshall has been gone for years so who cares at this point? Would rather talk about other things today. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Spider-Dan on October 05, 2015, 03:00:17 pm Yes, Ross stated that. But that's not what you claimed.
You claimed that Ross made the decision to get rid of Marshall on his own. I see no evidence to support such a statement. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2015, 03:00:44 pm Yes, Ross stated that. But that's not what you claimed. You claimed that Ross made the decision to get rid of Marshall on his own. I see no evidence to support such a statement. He did. Whatever, believe what you want. Title: Re: Philbin is gone Post by: Tenshot13 on October 05, 2015, 03:50:08 pm The South Florida Sun Sentinel reported Friday that Dolphins CEO Mike Dee arranged for the phone call between Ross and Jason Lawrence, a longtime season-ticket holder who was interviewed by the newspaper while participating in a fan protest Tuesday outside the team's headquarters.
"[Ross] said they had been shopping [Marshall] for a couple weeks," Lawrence said. "Nobody would return their phone calls about getting him. If Chicago didn't take [Marshall] … they would have ended up cutting him very shortly after that, and got nothing." This is the only thing I can find. Whatever, does anyone else really care at this point? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827d5286/article/dolphins-owner-calls-fan-says-coach-didnt-want-matt-flynn |