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We have holes everywhere, but is there a position or a guy you really don't want us to select on Thursday? For me, only one position and that's QB. This is not the year for us to draft a franchise QB, almost every other position I am fine with.

IMO none of the long snapper, kickers or punters in this draft are worth a first round pick.  But I could be wrong.

If the Dolphins draft a QB this year I'm going to scream.

arizona drafts murray and then they trade us josh rosen for a 3rd .. so in essence we're drafting josh rosen with a 3rd round pick

for our first round pick i don't want a skill position in the first round .. i want a lineman on either side

AZ would be insane to take anything less than a mid round 2nd. If the best offer is a 3rd keep him as a backup.

Agreed. The kid had no chance this year with Arizona's horrible team and coaching. His career isn't over.

Arizona may not draft Murray after all.   

More chatter on Rosen and how we have done the most work on him. I think if we offer Arizona our 2nd rounder, we can get him.

Of course, he started last year so he can't hold a clipboard this year, meaning Fitzpatrick is now a backup. It all seems unlikely to happen but once they draft Murray then I think a bunch of phone calls will happen.

The only non lineman, or pass rusher I'd be ok with drafting first would be D.K. Metcalf.

^Yeah, Sunstroke changed my mind on him.  He's too much of a physical freak to not be a little excited.

I don't want to essentially draft Rose either. The Dolphins have their QB for this year. Dolphins have bigger fish to fry.

Depends on who else wants him.  I can see them getting high as late in the first round.  Two landing spots that might offer more than Dolphins would be NE 32 or NYG 37. 

I can see the Giants doing it with the 37th pick because it allows them to keep their two 1st rounders but the Pats will probably just draft some 2nd or 3rd round project and see how that works out. Not like the kid will play before 2021 anyway.

If they draft Murray with the #1 pick it's over with AZ.

I saw the Mel Kiper Jr and Todd McShay mock draft on ESPN and they had the Dolphins taking Drew Lock. I'm actually on board with taking either Haskins or Lock with the number 13 pick in the draft. I won't be disappointed if they don't, but I'm ok with it as well as I think waiting another year for a QB to fall into their lap is risky. I'd even be ok with taking a QB this year, finding out he's not a franchise QB and picking another next year. It would not be ideal, but however you have to do it to end up with a QB that you are going to stick with for a decade, do it. That's the only way I think you are going to turn this franchise around at this point. The front office has not shown me they can compete without a top 5 or top 10 QB no matter who else is on the field. Hell they haven't even really shown they can compete with a top 5 QB in the last 30 years.

An idea for the QB scenario would be to get Rosen for a 2nd or 3rd, draft a late round QB like Rypien or Stick, see if there is anything there, then draft a QB next year.  Blast a shotgun at the QB position and see if anything hits.  If we get multiple hits, we could trade one of them down the line.

Problem with that is you have too many other holes.

We have a lot of draft picks in 2020.  We could get some of the Oline and Dline drafted this year and the rest next year.  I think we can do both.  This isn't even including free agency, and the Dolphins will have close to the most cap space in 2020.

2019 Draft
1st Round (13 overall)
2nd Round (48 overall)
3rd Round (79 overall)
4th Round (117 overall)
5th Round (152 overall)
7th Round (235 overall via Tennessee)
7th Round (236 overall via Pittsburgh)

2020 Draft
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
3rd Round (Ja’Wuan James comp pick)
4th Round
4th Round (Ryan Tannehill trade)
5th Round
5th Round (potential Cameron Wake comp pick)
6th Round
6th Round (Robert Quinn trade)
7th Round
7th Round (Jordan Lucas trade with Kansas City in August 2018)

More and more people are saying these QBs are good but not great ... meaning you need a good team around them to succeed. They aren't people to carry your team and aren't anywhere close to the last guarantee ... Andrew Luck. Next year there are three who are being ranked higher although that could change over the next year. With that being the case you can almost bet the Dolphins won't draft a QB before the 3rd round. This is a strong defensive draft and we have zero play-makers right now. There is almost no way they don't go defensive line in the first and maybe second round. An o-lineman in the second may also be an option.

^Having so many holes, we definitely have options.  I expect them to go this route.

Don’t take any of the QBs this year. O line or D line is what I want. It’d be great if we could get Rosen for a third but I’ wouldn’t give anything higher.

I wouldn't be thrilled or sad if we got Rosen for a 3rd, but that means he has to start Week 1. Don't know if management will do that since we just signed Fitzpatrick. A QB doesn't get better riding the bench for a year after starting the season before. I'm definitely leaning towards O-Line or D-Line in this draft and a QB in 2020 but I don't think I would throw my TV out if we traded a 3rd rounder for Rosen.

Grier said his goal was to get three starters and three back-ups this draft. I can't see him wasting a thrid on an iffy pick like QB that didn't work out somewhere else.

The rumor is Rosen has a rough personality and his teammates don't necessarily warm up to him. I didn't know of him in college but apparently he was the same there. 

Yeah, we really aren't in much of a position to use a 3rd rounder on anything but a "guaranteed" starter. We need to ace this draft, pray the Giants get a QB now and then ace the draft and free agency in 2020. No injury risks, no projects, no "his numbers weren't great but we like his athleticism" picks that are earlier than 7th rounders.

There is no such thing as a guaranteed starter.

Trading for a player is way less risky than drafting.  Easier to project what a player is capable of doing on one NFL team to another than project what they can do based on college.

I know, that's why I put quotation marks around it. I just want us to make safer picks instead of drafting guys that fall to us because they have injury concerns. I'm fine drafting a Tunsil if it is over bullshit character concerns but no guys who may not even be ready Week 1 due to injury.

I won't be upset if they don't trade the third for Rosen, it's a risk but I think it's one worth taking for a third but nothing more than that.

Start up front on either side make it the focus of this draft and im happy.

I can’t imagine you getting him for a third.  Any team that was hoping to grab him if he fell to the second last year is going to be willing to offer a second for him this year.  You get him for 4 years b/c of 5th year option. And with signing bonus already paid for about the same cost as a second rounder, maybe even a little less.