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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 09:36:52 am »

Bush and Chaney had an agenda to invade Iraq and they were just looking for the reason. The war on terror came convenient to them. Unfortunately it looks like Saddam was just posturing to make himself appear more powerful than he really was. I would be completely interested in reading a Bush book, but unfortunately I doubt he would come clean on his real motivations.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 10:02:22 am »

Bush and Chaney had an agenda to invade Iraq...
Based on what?

link, link, link.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 10:03:56 am »

George W is why we invaded Iraq.

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 12:17:38 pm »

Based on what?

link, link, link.

Come on. I don't have to link to everything. It is common knowledge that there had been a rift with Iraq and weapons inspectors dating back to the Clinton years. Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld are all on record of wanting to take more action against Iraq than the previous administration, but then this pesky thing we call 9/11 happened and put their plan back a few years.

By the way your links are pointless and meaningless. Did I ever say Bush lied, no. Did I say Democrats didn't believe it also, not. I said he had an agenda. Of that there is no dispute.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 12:35:42 pm »

Based on what?

 

So ......now if there isn't a link to something on the Net , that means it isn't true or it didn't happen? I'd venture to say that half the stuff on the net isn't true anyway. When you look back over the last 8 years common sense will tell you the truth.  The first time we invaded Iraq with his dad, we had the world behind us. It was a international effort. This time after they all said we shouldn't , he did it anyway. That doesn't tell you he's got an agenda?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2008, 12:44:58 pm »

Come on. I don't have to link to everything.
I didn't really mean to ask for a link.  "Link, link, link" were links that I posted.  I keep hearing that Bush had an agenda based on "common knowledge".  Apparently my knowledge isn't so common.  Is there some statement he made that this "common knowledge" is based upon? 

If you don't remember specifics, or even generalities, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  It only means that I'm oblivious/ignorant to it and you don't remember it. 


It is common knowledge that there had been a rift with Iraq and weapons inspectors dating back to the Clinton years.
Agreed.


Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld are all on record of wanting to take more action against Iraq than the previous administration
Not only those three, hence the 3 links I posted.


By the way your links are pointless and meaningless.
Just about everyone "talked the talk" for years.  Bush finally "walked the walk".  In HINDSIGHT, many now think that wasn't such a great idea.


Did I ever say Bush lied, no. Did I say Democrats didn't believe it also, not.
I'm not into "strawman arguments" and never meant to imply that you made either statement. 


I said he had an agenda. Of that there is no dispute.
Could be.  Other than problems with weapons inspectors, I don't remember much about any Bush agenda pre-9/11.  It looks to me, based on my links, that the agenda was that of both parties both pre and post 9/11.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 01:10:24 pm »

I think it's pretty funny when people try to compare the right's dislike of Clinton to everyone-but-the-extreme-right's dislike of GWB.

When GWB had the lowest approval rating (20%) of any President since they started tracking such ratings, how is that remotely similar to Clinton?  The lowest approval rating (40%) Clinton had was in 1994; from the moment the Lewinsky scandal broke until his February 1999 acquittal on perjury and obstruction of justice charges, his approval rating never dipped below 58%.  What's more, Clinton actually had his highest approval rating (73%) DURING the Lewinsky scandal.

GWB and Clinton are not even remotely comparable.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 01:53:20 pm »

Chapter Six:

Me vs. a Pretzel
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 02:21:28 pm »

Chapter Six:

Me vs. a Pretzel

Actually that is Chapter Nine. 

Chapter One  - The taste of Silver & the spoon I was born with.
Chapter Two - Cheerleading
Chapter Three - Everyday is Halloween at Skull and Bones
Chapter Four - Defending airspace of Alabama from the Vietcong
Chapter Five - White powder or booze
Chapter Six - Making money as an insider trader
Chapter Seven - Its like Xmas - spending the TX budget surplus
Chapter Eight - Lost the popular vote; but own the election 5-4.
Chapter Nine - Me vs. the Pretzel     
Chapter Ten - vanquishing the goodwill of the world post 9/11.
Chapter Eleven - Mission accomplished - I got to land on a carrier. 
Chapter Twelve - Swiftboaters are my heros
Chapter Thirteen -  Golfing during hurricane or a little bad weather shouldn't ruin a vacation.
Chapter Fourteen - only Barney truly understand me - I wish I could have bitten that reporter
Chapter Fifteen - Election night: Condi was as popular in the whitehouse as Giants fan was in a Boston bar on superbowl Sunday.

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 04:16:55 pm »

I didn't really mean to ask for a link.  "Link, link, link" were links that I posted.  I keep hearing that Bush had an agenda based on "common knowledge".  Apparently my knowledge isn't so common.  Is there some statement he made that this "common knowledge" is based upon? 



The reports, and I don't think they are denied, is that Bush asked Rumsfeld to look into war scenarios with Iraq in November 2001. Considering our other engagements at that time it sounds to me like the man had an agenda with Iraq.
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2008, 08:00:24 pm »

That's post 9/11.  I thought you meant he came into office with that agenda.
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